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Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM
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On Thursday, June 17, 2010, phoebe ayers wrote
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From: Joseph Reagle joseph.2...@reagle.org
Date: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Wikipedia...
To: foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org
On Thursday, June 17
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
The original original of the concept itself is of course
The Flight of the Bumblebee, with a related concept
being the centipede losing track of it's legs, when it
begins trying to think through what it is doing with
them.
The concept of Information Wants to be
On 18 June 2010 08:53, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote:
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
The original original of the concept itself is of course
The Flight of the Bumblebee, with a related concept
being the centipede losing track of it's legs, when it
begins trying to think
The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in theory. It could
never work in practice.
I've seen that quote attributed to Jimmy, and also to Miikka Ryokas,
quoted by Noam Cohen in his NY Times story about Virginia Tech. But
neither of them, I think, originated it.
Does anyone have a good
Isn't the quote backwards? The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in
practice. It could never work in theory?
-Dan
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works in theory. It could
never work in practice.
I've seen that quote
Yes, it's communism that works in theory but not in practice. :-)
2010/6/17 Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com
Isn't the quote backwards? The problem with Wikipedia is that it only
works in practice. It could never work in theory?
-Dan
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Sue Gardner wrote:
The
This is the best source of the zeroth law of Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Raul%27s_laws#Laws_by_others
I believe people have tried to track down the original coiner, but
noone really knows.
Thanks,
Pharos
2010/6/17 Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com:
Yes, it's communism
On 17 June 2010 21:07, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't the quote backwards? The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works
in practice. It could never work in theory?
I vaguely remember it on wikien-l many years ago. I have no idea if
that was its first use.
- d.
Dan Rosenthal wrote:
Isn't the quote backwards? The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works
in practice. It could never work in theory?
It can be formulated various ways. Raul's Laws has yet another variation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Raul%27s_laws
I'd note that in
Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I really doubt
we got it from that.
Anyone got a complete wikien-l archive to grovel through?
- d.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I really doubt
we got it from that.
Anyone got a complete
On 17 June 2010 21:14, Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net wrote:
Dan Rosenthal wrote:
Isn't the quote backwards? The problem with Wikipedia is that it only works
in practice. It could never work in theory?
It can be formulated various ways. Raul's Laws has yet another variation:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words,
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Yes, it's communism that works in theory but not in practice. :-)
But isn't Wikipedia Communism?
It must be true, I saw it written so on Wikipedia! :D
- -Mike
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On 17 June 2010 21:37, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the phrase in a 1988 sociology paper:
http://jpart.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/1/1/19
I'd call it a pretty obvious play on words, though, so I
Hello,
I could imagine that such a statement, in a different form, comes
originally from socialist or anti-socialist circles.
By the way, I am not such a big fan of this seemingly witty remark. If
there is a conflict between theory and practice, that means that your
theory is bad and has to be
Ha. Yes, of course :-)
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From: Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:07:59
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing Listfoundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Wikipedia...
Isn't the quote backwards? The problem
geni wrote:
Well I can search wikipedia-en-l as far back as 13.09.04 and I'm not
coming up with anything. Running google searches for mentions pre 2006
doesn't turn up anything however use explodes in 2006 which is rather
fast if than jan 2006 use is the first.
I grepped for it in
Listfoundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Sage
Rossrages...@gmail.com; Sue Gardnersgard...@wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Wikipedia...
On Thursday, June 17, 2010, phoebe ayers wrote:
Actually, the other way around, as others have stated.
Now that you mention it, I've seen
Pharos wrote:
This is the best source of the zeroth law of Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Raul%27s_laws#Laws_by_others
I believe people have tried to track down the original coiner, but
noone really knows.
The original original of the concept itself is of course
Platonides wrote:
geni wrote:
Well I can search wikipedia-en-l as far back as 13.09.04 and I'm not
coming up with anything. Running google searches for mentions pre 2006
doesn't turn up anything however use explodes in 2006 which is rather
fast if than jan 2006 use is the first.
I
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:51 AM, susanpgard...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you all! Very helpful. I'll attribute it to Gareth, and note that it's
passed into widespread use.
The popular observation is that Wikipedia only works in practice. In
theory, it can never work.
Sheizaf Rafaeli and Yaron
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