Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is exactly this why new GFDL images are imho inappropriate. Again, Commons functions as a repository for all our projects and consequently it is not really acceptable when it can not function as such for its material. Thanks, GerardM 2009/8/5 Petr Kadlec petr.kad...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-06 Thread Petr Kadlec
2009/8/6 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: It is exactly this why new GFDL images are imho inappropriate. Again, Commons functions as a repository for all our projects and consequently it is not really acceptable when it can not function as such for its material. So, your opinion is

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, My opinion is that the CC-by-sa has always been the right license. The GFDL served us well and I am really grateful to the FSF that they were so gracious to allow us to move over to the CC-by-sa. The CC-by-sa is a different license and it was the accepted wisdom that CC-by-sa material could

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-05 Thread Petr Kadlec
2009/8/4 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: GFDL licensed images are still perfectly usable in freely licensed reference works, in spite of the  inconveniences in the license. I am not sure what you mean, exactly. Do you consider GFDL to be “strong copyleft”, i.e. that the viral clause applies

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Uploading material that is incompatible with our license, I would personally consider it a bad faith move. Only when it is considered that the inclusion of a GFDL file is similar to fair use within the context of a Wikipedia clone would it be acceptable. This however possibly negates the

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Huib!
Hello, Wikimedia prefers material under a CC license but it will stay possible to upload gfdl only material. But whenever its possible try to upload it under a cc-by license or a dual license. Best regards, Huib -- Http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:Abigor

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Gerard Meijssengerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that all of our material can not be made available under the CC-by-sa license because  of some people insisting on using the wrong license is beyond me. The fact that we insist that the two licenses are

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please note that I only call for no more new uploads of GFDL material. Also my main argument is ignored; the ability and surety that such documents can be legally used by our downstream users of our content. Thanks, GerardM 2009/8/4 Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 4,

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Snow
Marco Chiesa wrote: Commons accepts materials that are free according to http://freedomdefined.org/Definition GFDL works fall within that definition, so they're free. We have lived eight years with GFDL and we've called Wikipedia the free encyclopedia all the time, so we cannot just dismiss

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Michael Snowwikipe...@verizon.net wrote: [snip] I cannot fathom why you would limit media to being released only under the GFDL unless it was designed specifically for incorporation into a GFDL work. It's a documentation license, not a media license, and when

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Snow
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Michael Snowwikipe...@verizon.net wrote: [snip] I cannot fathom why you would limit media to being released only under the GFDL unless it was designed specifically for incorporation into a GFDL work. It's a documentation license, not

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Michael Snow wrote: Marco Chiesa wrote: Commons accepts materials that are free according to http://freedomdefined.org/Definition GFDL works fall within that definition, so they're free. We have lived eight years with GFDL and we've called Wikipedia the free encyclopedia all the time, so

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Snow
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Michael Snow wrote: Marco Chiesa wrote: Commons accepts materials that are free according to http://freedomdefined.org/Definition GFDL works fall within that definition, so they're free. We have lived eight years with GFDL and we've called Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Two questions about the licensing update of media files

2009-08-03 Thread Nemo_bis
mizusumashi, 25/07/2009 16:54: Q1) All media files that have been licensed under the GFDL and allowed to relicense under CC-BY-SA were relicensed by [[wmf:Resolution:Licensing update approval]]? Yes, all GFDL 1.2 and later. See