Re: [Foundation-l] William Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:23 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 02/28/2010 09:36 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: I've reported when I thought I had something to report I think the problem here is that you haven't reported any accomplishments because there haven't been any. We've got some stuff that is probably done. But we can't actually show it, and we can't prove that it's done, so yes, giving people a progress report saying things are probably better now but you can't see didn't seem so helpful. Going hand in hand with iterative design is evolutionary delivery. Twenty years ago, the norm was for projects to take years to deliver useful software; now, that’s unthinkable. In evolutionary delivery, we schedule many short revision cycles; as often as every couple of weeks, you get a new version to use, test, and critique. And at the beginning of every cycle, you have the opportunity to set your priorities for the next version. This lets you start using the high-priority features right away, and makes sure that your software meets your needs. As an added bonus, you are never left wondering, What are those guys doing? When you see concrete results on a regular basis, there’s no mystery. http://www.scissor.com/aboutus.htm#philosophy I should clarify that that quote just happened to catch my eye, and that it's totally off-topic and unrelated to anything of importance. Actually, in hindsight, I shouldn't be posting when I'm in my current under-rested state. Are you kidding? That quote is spot on. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] William Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?
On 02/28/2010 09:36 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: I've reported when I thought I had something to report I think the problem here is that you haven't reported any accomplishments because there haven't been any. We've got some stuff that is probably done. But we can't actually show it, and we can't prove that it's done, so yes, giving people a progress report saying things are probably better now but you can't see didn't seem so helpful. When I put up the last blog post, we did have something accomplished: a clear list of all the things we knew were necessary to release, with relative estimates, and posted in a public place so others could keep track of the status and let us know if they thought we missed anything. We've since worked on them, and I promise that as soon as we have something to show, which I would very much like to be soon, I'll let everybody know. William ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] William Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:23 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 02/28/2010 09:36 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: I've reported when I thought I had something to report I think the problem here is that you haven't reported any accomplishments because there haven't been any. We've got some stuff that is probably done. But we can't actually show it, and we can't prove that it's done, so yes, giving people a progress report saying things are probably better now but you can't see didn't seem so helpful. Going hand in hand with iterative design is evolutionary delivery. Twenty years ago, the norm was for projects to take years to deliver useful software; now, that’s unthinkable. In evolutionary delivery, we schedule many short revision cycles; as often as every couple of weeks, you get a new version to use, test, and critique. And at the beginning of every cycle, you have the opportunity to set your priorities for the next version. This lets you start using the high-priority features right away, and makes sure that your software meets your needs. As an added bonus, you are never left wondering, What are those guys doing? When you see concrete results on a regular basis, there’s no mystery. http://www.scissor.com/aboutus.htm#philosophy ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] William Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:23 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.comwrote: On 02/28/2010 09:36 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: I've reported when I thought I had something to report I think the problem here is that you haven't reported any accomplishments because there haven't been any. We've got some stuff that is probably done. But we can't actually show it, and we can't prove that it's done, so yes, giving people a progress report saying things are probably better now but you can't see didn't seem so helpful. Going hand in hand with iterative design is evolutionary delivery. Twenty years ago, the norm was for projects to take years to deliver useful software; now, that’s unthinkable. In evolutionary delivery, we schedule many short revision cycles; as often as every couple of weeks, you get a new version to use, test, and critique. And at the beginning of every cycle, you have the opportunity to set your priorities for the next version. This lets you start using the high-priority features right away, and makes sure that your software meets your needs. As an added bonus, you are never left wondering, What are those guys doing? When you see concrete results on a regular basis, there’s no mystery. http://www.scissor.com/aboutus.htm#philosophy I should clarify that that quote just happened to catch my eye, and that it's totally off-topic and unrelated to anything of importance. Actually, in hindsight, I shouldn't be posting when I'm in my current under-rested state. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
