Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread Mike Dupont
I have done a write up of the current issues with the naming and invite you to please read and comment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdupont#Naming_and_status_of_Kosovo_pages I suggest some things and would like to find agreement, we need to figure out the right way forward on this

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread Noein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm very naive on this subject, but from what I understood there are two ethnic groups (independent or not, it doesn't change this cultural fact). And one of this group has two official languages. So, regardless of the political agendas, why don't we

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm very naive on this subject, but from what I understood there are two ethnic groups (independent or not, it doesn't change this cultural fact). And one of this group has two

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread Fred Bauder
I have done a write up of the current issues with the naming and invite you to please read and comment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdupont#Naming_and_status_of_Kosovo_pages I suggest some things and would like to find agreement, we need to figure out the right way forward on this

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 November 2010 15:31, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: So, regardless of the political agendas, why don't we let each ethnical group have its own wikipedia project, and in case of several languages, allow a secondary fork? This would concretely gives three distinct projects: - -

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread Mike Dupont
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2. This is about en:wp only. I am taking it to the english list. thanks for your attention. A final point for the entire project, not just any language, I would like point out that the sr.wikipedia and sq.wikipedia for

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-15 Thread Fred Bauder
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:19 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2. This is about en:wp only. I am taking it to the english list. thanks for your attention. A final point for the entire project, not just any language, I would like point out that the sr.wikipedia and sq.wikipedia for

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-12 Thread M. Williamson
Yes, sure, but a lot of smaller villages and towns in many countries do not have well-established English names. Besides, what constitutes the English name is a matter of debate - according to law, the official name of Kolkata in English is Kolkata... but then, couldn't Germany pass a law saying

[Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-11 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi there, I have seen a big problem in getting people to contribute in kosovo to wikipedia except the Kosovo article, there they dont call in *Kosovo and Metohija*i, so I think there is a president for the english and albanian names in wikipedia. most of the names are in serbian, with strange

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-11 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 11/11/2010 03:26 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: so I think there is a president for the english and albanian names in wikipedia. most of the names are in serbian, with strange characters that I cannot even type. this offends most contributors and prevents locals from contributing. also the serbs

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-11 Thread Mike Dupont
I think that at least a consistent listing of both names is needed, expecially on the links. I have had to fight with simple unwillingness to list both names in serbian and albanian on all things. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Hi there, I have seen

Re: [Foundation-l] naming of things in kosovo

2010-11-11 Thread geni
On 11 November 2010 14:26, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Ideally we would use the albanian names and encourage the locals to edit. No ideally we would use the English names. As we have established with say Germany and Norway what the locals happen to call something is of