Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-24 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Wow, Jussi-Ville; I like it, thank you :-) Wikimedia is not always a tremendously warm culture, and I am sometimes guilty of feeling a little under-appreciated. This mail made me happy. I don't even care if you've already changed your mind: it was super-kind, and I thank you for it :-)

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-24 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote: Hi everybody, Hi there, Thanks for the chance to submit some ideas. I have started a review process and have been reading the proposals and backgrounders on youtube.

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-23 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Sue Gardner wrote: Some awesomely relevant stuff . . . Let me just say as a board election candidate who in the final tally didn't get the nod from the voters, that I personally think your grasp of what is relevant and vital to the eventual full expression of our missions potential is nothing

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-23 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Sue, Thank you very much for your explanation which is very informative and clear. So for your question You see what I mean? my answer is Yes, I do:) Let me presume that (in some reasonably short time) these explanation will be placed to

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-23 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Thanks, Eugene With kind help from Sue :) you managed to make it much clearer. Please either avoid or be much more explicit clearer with concepts like ... I expect that to be a rubber stamp. I mean well made comment from Ray Saintonge (in his own letter from Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM) An

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-23 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Ray, ... conflicts with the institutionalized deference implicit in Pavlo's question. You understood my point perfectly well ;) I have no personal reasons/causes to be ... 'suspicious' about WMF but I'm from that part of the Earth where ... an essential mistrust of institutions ...

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-23 Thread Sue Gardner
2009/9/23 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: Sue Gardner wrote: Some awesomely relevant stuff . Let me just say as a board election candidate who in the final tally didn't get the nod from the voters, that I personally think your grasp of what is relevant and vital to the eventual

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-22 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com wrote: Who will decide what the strategy will be, and what will be the decision-making process? this page explains nothing about (or explains in no detail if somebody prefers) how main stakeholder - Foundation will make

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-22 Thread Robert Rohde
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com wrote: Who will decide what the strategy will be, and what will be the decision-making process? this page explains nothing about (or explains in

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-22 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Robert Rohde wrote: It would probably be a good idea for someone to start sorting proposals be their perceived difficulty and/or need for external resources (if no one has been already), so that the easy issues could be separated from the hard ones. There's a

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-15 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/9/15 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu: I poked around a bit, and I think they have to actually sign in with the new account before its in the table, which makes sense, and means the #s are reasonable. This is certainly my understanding - the account is created as-and-when you log in at

[Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
Hi everybody, For those of you who don't know me, I'm leading the Wikimedia strategic planning process. Our goal is to develop a five-year strategic plan through an open community process that is going on right now and that will go on through July 2010. We're trying to answer three questions: *

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Brian
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote: Hi everybody, For those of you who don't know me, I'm leading the Wikimedia strategic planning process. Our goal is to develop a five-year strategic plan through an open community process that is going on right now

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Eugene Eric Kim
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: This is great to hear and I am very curious to see how it turns out. Me too. :-) It's too bad Special:Statistics can't show you basic information over time. To facilitate before/after comparisons, as of now: 372 content

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
Hello Eugene, Thanks for heads up (two days before the D-day), ... I wanted to point you to a few links that explain this in more detail. http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Process As to me, as to the best of my belief the nutshell is on the page

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Pavlo Shevelo
the strategy that emerges from thoughtful interaction between the community and the foundation. Not sure what your definition of the community is. There are lots of... It's misfit, isn't it? ... are Brian and Eugene speaking in different languages? -- Pavlo Shevelo [SUL] On Tue, Sep 15,

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Casey Brown
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: It's too bad Special:Statistics can't show you basic information over time. Thankfully, Philippe has been saving these statistics so you can see the over time effect:

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Brian
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: It's too bad Special:Statistics can't show you basic information over time. Thankfully, Philippe has been saving these statistics so you can see

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I knew it would come in handy for something... :-) On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: It's too bad Special:Statistics can't show you

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Brian
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: I knew it would come in handy for something... :-) Tx. Do you know what counts as a user account given SUL? Someone who is logged on at another wiki merely visits, and now they are a new user account?

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I have wondered that, and do not know the answer. My GUESS - uneducated and probably wrong - would be that it's not an account until they write something on SUL or create the account locally. On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Brian wrote: Tx. Do you know what counts as a user account given SUL?

Re: [Foundation-l] strategic planning process update

2009-09-14 Thread Brian
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: I have wondered that, and do not know the answer. My GUESS - uneducated and probably wrong - would be that it's not an account until they write something on SUL or create the account locally. On Sep 14,