Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Jimmy Wales
You are right! TYPO! On 8/10/11 6:14 PM, Delphine Ménard wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Jimmy Walesjwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: It would be, if that's what it were about. But I can say with confidence that at the board meeting, no one spoke about any ideas even remotely similar to

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/10/11 7:22 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: As for the rest I encourage you to exercise your moral duty by helping the chapters fulfill the reporting requirements, implement the financial controls, and operate transparently. You have been through this all before. You were the chairman

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/10/11 8:51 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being centralized. Centralization, not lack of funding, is what I believe will make chapters ineffective. Chapters are not being centralized. I don't know how I can be more clear. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/10/11 8:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, but where has it been suggested that chapters would not remain free to raise funds independently of the WMF? My impression was that the change being discussed here would merely remove participation in the WMF fundraiser

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Renata St
I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being centralized. Centralization, not lack of funding, is what I believe will make chapters ineffective. Frankly, I think cutting off their funding would be less detrimental (although still not a good thing) to the chapter's

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Birgitte SB
From: Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters On 8/10/11 7:22 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:   As for the rest I

[Foundation-l] Vladimir V. Medeyko WANTED

2011-08-11 Thread Gora Kazanskaya
Anybody knows something about the user Drbug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) after the Wikimania 2011? Kazanskaya Gora. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Vladimir V. Medeyko WANTED

2011-08-11 Thread Huib Laurens
What is there to know? 2011/8/11 Gora Kazanskaya kaz.g...@yandex.ru Anybody knows something about the user Drbug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) after the Wikimania 2011? Kazanskaya Gora. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

2011-08-11 Thread Robin Pepermans
Hi, @Mark: although I do not like your tone in your original post, you provide some good feedback (and started a thread with more feedback), which is more than welcome. 2. Do you have a suggestion as an alternative for the term incubating wikis? Is the more often used test wiki better? 5. I

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

2011-08-11 Thread Thomas Goldammer
Hi Robin, that sounds great, I hope these things will solve some of the problems. Thanks for your efforts. Th. 2011/8/12 Robin Pepermans robinp.1...@gmail.com: Hi, @Mark: although I do not like your tone in your original post, you provide some good feedback (and started a thread with more

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 August 2011 18:29, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 August 2011 08:18, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 August 2011 05:13, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very true, and

[Foundation-l] Alec Conroy

2011-08-11 Thread Milos Rancic
Anyone in contact with him? He has been frustrated with some recent events [1]; I got his email during the second day of Wikimania [madness] and I hadn't realized that I have to hurry before he closed his email account. I think that his insights are very important for Wikimedia movement and that

Re: [Foundation-l] Alec Conroy

2011-08-11 Thread John Vandenberg
Hi, gmail email account has been terminated. ;-( -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 14:53, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/10/11 8:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, but where has it been suggested that chapters would not remain free to raise funds independently of the WMF?  My impression was that the change being

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread Michael Snow
On 8/11/2011 7:08 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: Anyway, thanks for raising the importance of decentralization. The Board agrees: there's a reason it was first in our list of principles. To my mind decentralization is important raises a whole bunch of other important questions: is decentralization

[Foundation-l] disconnected

2011-08-11 Thread Lodewijk
(after a bit of thinking, I'll post this to foundation-l after all. As a bit of context, the whole fundraiser discussion continued on internal-l and a discussion emerged about disconnect between the board of the WMF and the chapters, of which the letter would be an example. Based on that

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

2011-08-11 Thread M. Williamson
2. Do you have a suggestion as an alternative for the term incubating wikis? Is the more often used test wiki better? Test wikis is much better. It has been used since before incubator even existed, it is easy to understand, and I don't see a downside.

Re: [Foundation-l] disconnected

2011-08-11 Thread Milos Rancic
I was really surprised this morning by the fact that during the recent days internal-l has beaten foundation-l by activity; which means that I didn't have enough time to read everything. Because of that, I would appreciate (as many others, I suppose) a little digest about the present conflict.