Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

+1 On 2009-09-09, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > In the thread "WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?" > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Austin Hair wrote: > (to Gregory Kohs) > [snip] >>  I've placed you on indefinite >> moderation with the goal of improving the signal:crazy ratio. > > With somethin

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Austin Hair wrote: > I've created http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Improving_Foundation-l for > brainstorming of how to make this list a little bit less of a > cesspool.  Please feel free to ignore the initial thoughts I banged > out as a starting point and refactor as

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

Fully agreed with Ray: If someone doesn't know how to use delete button, then such person is not quite competent to use mailing lists. It reminds me on criticism toward wikis: Ah, someone may change my edits! I don't want to use that system anymore! On 2009-09-11, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Thu, Se

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, effe iets anders wrote: > I think we're talking about two groups of people and thinking here: > 1) a group of people who have the principle "be bold" in their coat of arms > and love to say anything that comes to mind, no matter whether that might be > rude or not.

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Pavlo Shevelo wrote: >> Isn't temporarily blocking such a user a way to calm him/her down? I > Yes it might be the way, but far not universal way. > And it should be the last (ultimate) in moderator toolkit, far not the > first to be used. Yep. __

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: > As someone who does not think heavy-moderation is a good answer to the > problem, I think you are missing the point. > > These bold/imprudent sort of people have useful contributions in sharing > their positions.  It is the way they ridicule

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > A bit of an aside: One of the best ideas I've seen in a collaborative > tool in the past 10 years was in a project called H2O that came out of > the Berkman Center in its early days. The idea? People could only post > once a day. It's built

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Erik Zachte wrote: > For the record, I am one of those who did not speak up yet > (ref Austin) who would hope some of our power posters felt > less need to share every thought with the rest of us. > > In a public debate few people with a firm stance can be > convin

Re: [Foundation-l] Deletopedia for the history of Kosovo

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:16 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > Hello all, > > I am working on a Deletopedia for the history of Kosovo, > > to put them into the  althistory wikia. > > http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/History_of_Kosovo_(Albanian_Version) Treating Albanian nationalist POV a

Re: [Foundation-l] Deletopedia for the history of Kosovo

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > Milos Writes : >>Treating Albanian nationalist POV as a fictional world is the best way >>how to explain to Serbian nationalists that they are right :P (Wikinfo >>is the right place for that.) > > Well I do not want to make a

Re: [Foundation-l] Deletopedia for the history of Kosovo

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> is related to using althistory.wikia for that purpose :) > > Maybe that choice was bad. > A wikibook would be better. No. Wikibook is the plac

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistical research on Wikipedia (Godwin inspired)

Let's try to avoid such emails. Whatever the content of Gregory's email is, sarcastic responses make atmosphere of the list more heated. On 2009-10-09, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Gregory Kohs wrote: > >> [...] >> Both of these previous assessments I conducted for free. No more. I >> would >> act

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia meets git

For a couple of years I have an idea with another approach: Use MediaWiki as a software repository. Actually, I am already doing so on my local MediaWiki installation. I even had some python scripts (based on pywikipediabot) which are dealing with importing and exporting source code (but I don't kn

[Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

When you make a dumb survey, answers will be dumb, as well as conclusions. I am really frustrated with that survey... I wanted to help with my responses, but it seems that I am inside of unknown percentage of Wikimedia Commons users and contributors which doesn't fit into the survey. So, let's st

Re: [Foundation-l] Dumb survey about Commons

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > Hi Milos, > > Milos Rancic wrote: >  > >> * And the winner: What is my reason to participate? And there is no >> *my* reason, even Commons is the free content project? No reason to >> answer. > >

[Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

A year or so ago I realized that it is better to make an auxiliary site to Wikipedia [in Serbian] than to spend a lot of time in explaining to students that everyone has to send to me the sentence "I agree that all of my work is realized under ...". It may be funny for the first couple of times, it

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

On 11/22/2009 05:57 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/11/22 Judson Dunn : > >> And in defense of the bureaucratic morons, you might be surprised the >> number of super positive generous people that want their work on >> Wikipedia that are completely unwilling to allow 3rd parties to use >> their work.

[Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not bureaucracy, said bureaucrat and deleted article

Read http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/25/160236/Contributors-Leaving-Wikipedia-In-Record-Numbers Article is based on Felipe Ortega's research. There are two claims from this article: 1. English-language version of Wikipedia suffered a net loss of 49,000 contributors, compared with a loss of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not bureaucracy, said bureaucrat and deleted article

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > So you have an idea ... please share it and explain why you think it will > make a difference. It does not really help to leave with a cliff hanger ... > > 2009/11/26 Milos Rancic > >> (Actually, I have a couple of &

Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > This is enforced by a group of moderators by blocking the usernames > who fulfill one of these conditions, and notifying them on their > talkpage they can create a new username, but that their current is > blocked indefinitely. I support policy t

Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Although I can understand that there are genuine reasons why the "anti > organisational account" rule is in place, can I mention that having an > organisational account is one of the main things that GLAM institutions have > asked from us. If a

Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, effe iets anders wrote: > could you perhaps point to that general WMF policy? Or do you mean you would > like to see such a policy, but there is none yet? Are you able to read the whole content or it is so much important to point bureaucratically to every mistake?

Re: [Foundation-l] Where do our readers come from?

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Erik Zachte wrote: > Today I released 4 new reports, which all focus on: > > Where do our readers come from? > > > >   http://tinyurl.com/yhdej3j > > > > Cheers, Erik Zachte > > > > ___ > found

[Foundation-l] Statistics and chapters: searching for chapters

Based on Erik's statistics [1] and Nikola's addition of Internet users [2] and the list of Wikimedia chapters [3], here is the first set of conclusions. == Searching for chapters == This analysis is about where to search for new Wikimedia chapters. It may be useful to the ChapCom and Board, but t

foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Erik Zachte wrote: > Q: Nikola Smolenski / Milos Rancic > At Wikipedia Page Views By Country - Breakdown [1] and Wikipedia Page Views > By Country - Trends [2] could you include more languages (ideally all > languages)? > Some of the numbers are

Re: [Foundation-l] Statistics and chapters: searching for chapters

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Joan Goma wrote: > Just a short remark: the most statistically explicative parameter for > Wikipedia activity is not the number of internet connections but GDP (except > for English and Chinese projects which exhibit singular behavior). Perhaps > you could retry th

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters Committee - Call for Candidates

Just to add my personal wish: I would like to see inside of the ChapCom members who are coming from a culturally/ethnically diverse areas (or members with significant experience in those areas). For example, India, Russia (out of monoethnic areas, but including Moscow), Middle East, Indochina, Indo

[Foundation-l] Media like Toolserver logo (as I do) :)

Today Wikimedia Serbia announced in Serbian media that Google donated $2m. Announcement has been published first at Telekom Srbija portal Mondo [1]. The most interesting part of it is that they've put TS logo instead of Wikimedia or even Wikipedia logo or even Wikimedia community logo. BTW, I like

[Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikibooks

I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they need wider discussion for concluding them. One of such requests is for multilingual Wikibooks [2]. Please, discuss here (at foundation-l; I am sending this message t

[Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikinews

I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they need wider discussion for concluding them. One of such requests is for multilingual Wikinews [2]. Please, discuss here (at foundation-l; I am sending this message to

[Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wiktionary

I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they need wider discussion for concluding them. One of such requests is for multilingual Wiktionary [2]. Please, discuss here (at foundation-l; I am sending this message

[Foundation-l] The name "Old Wikisource"

(Please, continue to discuss at foundation-l.) I think that the term "Old Wikisource" and wiki abbreviation "oldwikisource" is really bad for the purpose of Wikisource (hosting "the rest" of material). Something like "Multilingual Wikisource" would be better (or whatever). So, may I ask fold from

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikibooks

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the > requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they > need wider discussion for concluding them. > > One of such requests is for multilingu

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wiktionary

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the > requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they > need wider discussion for concluding them. > > One of such requests is for multilingua

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion about proposal for multilingual Wikinews

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > I am cleaning Requests for new languages [1] at Meta. Some of the > requests are clearly out of the Language committee scope, and they > need wider discussion for concluding them. > > One of such requests is for multiling

[Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

This issue was discussed a number of times here. As some changes has happened, you should know that. Requests for Wikisource in Ancient Greek and Coptic have became eligible, as well as request for Ancient Greek Wikiquote. The condition for those projects is to keep default interface in English.

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Dovi Jacobs wrote: > This announcement is a very positive step forward! The members of the > language committee deserve great > credit for their willingness to re-think these proposals. I am truly > grateful, and I'm sure many others who put > great effort into t

[Foundation-l] Chinese languages (was: Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages)

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Aphaia wrote: > I find here a wrong assupmtion. > First wrong assumption is "Written Chinese is not very different for > millenniums", they aren't same, and consequently Edo period Japanese > who were taught Classical Chinese already found difficulty to > understand

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > What with the living languages that can't pass this test? Living languages can make neologisms and can adopt loan words. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscrib

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > I agree with this decision but probably it's better that the > communities could change the interface. In my opinion the contributors > of an old language may not be able to understand the "latin script" > (IMHO the Greek should have the int

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Dovi Jacobs wrote: > 1. With the full acceptance of Latin/Esperanto into the Wikimedia, it > seems that the first question has been put to rest ("no"), despite the > current text of the language policy. Esperanto has significant number of native speakers, as well a

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

One more change have happened. Wikisource in Sorbian have become eligible. The problem with eligibility of Wikisource in Sorbian is that there are two Sorbian languages: Upper Sorbian and Lower Sorbian. According to the Language proposal policy, one project should be written in just one language.

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Setting this up as a separate Wikisource does not seem like a good > idea.  It should be noted that the 180 or so pages in Upper Sorbian at > Oldwikisource are essentially the efforts of a single individual. This is another issue, related t

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:21 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 13 March 2010 19:12, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> For minor languages sustainable activity is often the very good work of >> one extremely dedicated individual with no-one else making any >> significant contribution. > > I thought the definitio

[Foundation-l] New project in our family

Thanks to Rob, we've got Wikipedia in Karachay-Balkar language [1]. Import of content from Incubator is on the way. Karacyah-Balkar language [2] is a Turkic language spoken in Central Russia. According to Ethnologue [3], there are 113.700 native speakers. [1] - http://krc.wikipedia.org/ [2] - htt

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

Is it possible to formalize differences in present technology at some reasonable level? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:13 AM, oscar wrote: > it the two are mixed, how to know which one to split off? > one can also consider to rename the domain and split of portuguese > portuguese with a separate project to be started from scratch. > > in other words: to decide which (sub)community has to

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt wrote: > Yep, if you start a article in one version, this article must be continued > in that version, but this is not a problem for the community (in the past > yes, now no). At sr.wp we use the same rule in relation to writing articles i

[Foundation-l] MMORPG and Wikimedia

The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a significant part of] our future. Wikimedia should join FSF and Winch Gate Properties in shaping the future. [1] -

Re: [Foundation-l] MMORPG and Wikimedia

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter > of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG > is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a significant part of] our > future. > >

Re: [Foundation-l] MMORPG and Wikimedia

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Nathan wrote: > I'm not sure I'm correctly understanding what you've written, but > supporting open source games seems to be outside the normal scope of > the WMF. This is not about games, but about virtual reality and platform for spreading free knowledge. __

Re: [Foundation-l] MMORPG and Wikimedia

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, geni wrote: > Doubtful. Why a few turn based and real time strategy have > historically spread information MMORPGs have not. Freeciv might be a > better target if you want to try that. The point is that this is an engine for virtual reality, while it is MMORPG, too

Re: [Foundation-l] MMORPG and Wikimedia

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > Milos Rancic wrote: >> The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter >> of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG >> is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a sig

Re: [Foundation-l] MMORPG and Wikimedia

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > Milos Rancic wrote: >> The MMORPG Ryzom goes Free Software [1]. Although it was just a matter >> of time, this event is very important for shaping our future. MMORPG >> is virtual reality and VR worlds will be [a sig

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 7 May 2010 20:30, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to point you to: >> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaannounce-l/2010-May/08.html > > My interpretation of that is that Jimmy's unilateral deletions a

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > Speaking for myself I can state that Jimmy is a part of the community and > that the board statement is in support of both his and the other > administrators who have taken the initiative to clean up commons. > > Also, I would refer you

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > I don't actually see what the problem is necessarily in deleting it. > It's called editorial judgment, and as I have been telling people for > years and years on Wikipedia, editorial judgment =/= censorship. You > may write the most awesome no

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > What I can say to your questions is that Jimmy informed the board about > his intention and asked the board for support. Don't speaking for other > board members, just speak for myself. I answered his mail with that I > fully support his engageme

[Foundation-l] Board members positions toward Jimmy's last action

By now, just two Board members explicitly stated what do they think about Jimmy's action: Jan-Bart de Vreede and Ting Chen (who explained his position in details). According to not precise Board's statement I may guess who supports Jimmy's action and who doesn't. However, I don't want to guess. As

Re: [Foundation-l] Statement on appropriate educational content

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:09 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > [[Internet Content Rating Association]] Thanks for info. This can be a very good solution! Every user could fill the questionnaire and he or she would see just the content which he or she is willing to see. Some defaults may be applied:

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > Hello Milos, > > At first to the two points you pointed out: > * No, I didn't mention that sexually explicit content should be deleted > and I still think the criteria should not be if something is sexually > explicit. The criteria should be if i

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Ting Chen wrote: > Milos Rancic wrote: >> By my opinion, the only urgency which WMF should do is to support Erik >> to fill a lawsuit against Larry Sanger ASAP. Also, if it is not >> possible to sue Fox and Larry Sanger on the basis of spread

Re: [Foundation-l] A Board member's perspective

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Stuart West wrote: > A few of you have asked for more perspectives from Board members on the > goings-on at Commons. I'm happy to share some of my personal views on the > events of the past few days. > > First off, let me thank everyone who has participated in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Board members positions toward Jimmy's last action

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:29 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> By now, just two Board members explicitly stated what do they think >> about Jimmy's action: Jan-Bart de Vreede and Ting Chen (who explained >> his position in

Re: [Foundation-l] Removing questions about me and my role from this discussion

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Jimmy Wales wrote: > In the interest of encouraging this discussion to be about real > philosophical/content issues, rather than be about me and how quickly I > acted, I've just now removed virtually all permissions to actually do > things from the "Founder" flag.

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's Sexual Image Deletions

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:29 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 9 May 2010 07:45, Samuel Klein wrote: > >> True. The resignations are deeply unfortunate, and I hope those who >> have left will still contribute to the ensuing discussions - their >> opinions are among those badly needed to find the right

Re: [Foundation-l] Removing questions about me and my role from this discussion

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joan Goma wrote: > The founder’s flag give to a single man a huge power. I can’t trust on > almost anybody to hold that power. Every steward holds that power. If I remember well, I think that stewards had a couple of more permissions than founder. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > [Foundation-l] Potential ICRA labels for Wikipedia.  AFAIK it's not > taking place on-wiki anywhere. > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/195663 After Greg's, David Gerard's and Mike's arguments, I think that it is clear tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > Let me know if I'm missing anything important. Actually, yes. In spite of multicultural nature of Wikimedia, this process shouldn't be formulated as purely related to sexual content, but as related to cultural taboos or to "offensive imagery"

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:17 AM, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote: > I have a problem with basing it on IP addresses. As a non Muslim in a Muslim > country, why should Wikimedia decide that *I* cannot see Muhammad pictures > but that it is perfectly OK to show it to a Muslim in Germany / France >

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > I just had a thought -- what if it were possible for a user to categorically > block views of any images that are not linked to in any project's article > pages?  Presumably, those Commons images that are found in articles are > relevant and ap

Re: [Foundation-l] Another board member statement

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Thank you, as ever, for being the one voice of sanity > on the board of trustees. I hope one day you will find > the time to be its chairperson. +1 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] A Board member's perspective

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Stuart West wrote: > A lot has happened since my email so here's a quick follow-up. I hear the > concerns many of you have raised on this list and elsewhere. I feel awful > about them. As Kat said so well, I think there is a big difference between > the principles

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Milos Rancic wrote: >> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: >> >>> Let me know if I'm missing anything important. >>> >> Actually, yes. In spite of multicultural nature of Wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Towards actual clean-up...

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > Le dimanche 9 mai 2010 17:33:42, David Goodman a écrit : >>  A secondary purpose of Commons in for material to be used >> elsewhere--have we any way for checking that?   I'd even say that the >> true success of Commons is when the materia

Re: [Foundation-l] Sexual Imagery on Commons: where the discussion is happening

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > those words are synonyms. Anyhow, it is good to know that "sacral" is > at leas ambiguous. "sacral" -> "sacred" ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Motives?

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Nathan wrote: > What's shocking? There's no revelation in your post. Do we need yet > one more thread discussing Jimmy's actions? It's probably time to let > the soaring flames of outrage gutter out, since the Founder flag has > been neutered and no other outcome i

[Foundation-l] The High Priests of Wikipedia

>From [1]: "For internecine intrigue and power struggles, the Wikipedia makes the Vatican look like a coffee clatch. This seemingly informal encyclopedia that anyone can edit is in fact a wiki-ocracy where self-anointed experts vie for control." Some numbers are not quite correct, but this is goo

Re: [Foundation-l] The High Priests of Wikipedia

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Amory Meltzer wrote: > Good? > > "Though the Wikipedia has more than 12 million registered users, its > inner core consists of roughly 1,700 administrators who possess the > ability to reject edits, lock down pages from further editing, and > deem entire entries unw

Re: [Foundation-l] The High Priests of Wikipedia

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: >> "For internecine intrigue and power struggles, the Wikipedia makes the >> Vatican look like a coffee clatch. > > I don't think you become one of the top ten websites in the world, > raise millions of dollars each year, by drinking caffeine and >

Re: [Foundation-l] Chief of Office of Wikimedia Serbia

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Filip Maljkovic wrote: > It is important to note that she became the Chief of Office without > salary and that her move to Belgrade depends on successful fundraising. Just to clarify: with salary, not without it. ___ fou

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

A couple of months ago, we was approached by an artist group which idea is to raise cultural awareness by putting at billboards stylized photos of (not so) famous [1] cultural and scientific persons from the history of Serbia. They wanted to incorporate their art project into Wikimedia Serbia proje

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > A couple of months ago, we was approached by an artist group which > idea is to raise cultural awareness by putting at billboards stylized > photos of (not so) famous [1] cultural and scientific persons from the > history of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > [3] - The billboards are designed as the image from the site, but with > link to the project's site and ... and Wikipedia logo. At the site, user can click on the image, which leads to the appropri

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > we want photo's! The company is making photos of every billboard. We have a deal to get all of them under GFDL/CC-BY-SA :) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: h

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Lodewijk > wrote: >> we want photo's! > > The company is making photos of every billboard. We have a deal to get > all of them under GFDL/CC-BY-SA :) > First photos (without

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

Here are my two cents... I am organizing now TEDx event in Belgrade. (Unlike others, our speakers will sign contract for CC-BY-SA, too.) And I am carefully watching gender and age involvement at the Facebook page. Our predispositions were again dominantly male: 5 males and one female in organizat

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

There is one point around Greg's story about diversities between genders. Men enjoy in playing war (with real guns, paintball, football, edit war, argument war...). Women enjoy in playing less aggressive games. The only games available on Wikipedia are games for men. Facebook is different. At the

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 05:58:31 Milos Rancic написа: >> That means that we need games for women. While I think that we should >> build full social network, just a basic one would help. > > Or perhaps we don

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 07:37:18 Milos Rancic написа: >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> > Or perhaps we don't even have to build one, but just use the existing >> > ones. [

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > My jaw just dropped.  While I know these are ideas intended to help increase > the socialization, this is turning Wikipedia into youtube.  The day that > happens I'm resigning all my permissions and packing my bags.  Softening > notability

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> While I would like to see good articles about every episode of >> whatever on Wikipedia, this was not the point. >> >> The point is to m

Re: [Foundation-l] Encouraging participation

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:16 AM, James Heilman wrote: > To attract academics this is and must be viewed as a serious endeavor. >  Yes some aspects such as reverting vandalism could have a fun twist > applied to them but the creation of content must remain simple and > serious.  Wikipedia already h

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pink_on_motivation.html > > As well as dopamine works during the work, not when the prize has been > get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrCVu25wQ5s Watch this, too: http://g4tv.com/videos/44277/dice

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

I've started page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_encourage_participation Feel free to add your ideas. If the page with the same idea exists elsewhere -- let's say at Strategy Wiki -- please merge pages and let the list know. ___ foundation-l ma

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > There's lots of great research and proposals on encouraging participation at: > > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Participation Thanks! This page [1] has the similar scope, actually. [1] - http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/At

Re: [Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Saturday 19 June 2010 08:37:37 Milos Rancic написа: >> I don't think that it is particularly interesting to see someone's >> edits. If you are not a passionate Wikimedian, of course. > > If your

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Q&A regarding board resolution

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Michael Snow wrote: >> Does the board have consensus on what to do about >> potentially-objectionable materials in the projects? >> >> No. So far, board members have exchanged several hundred e-mails on this >> topic, and we will continue to discuss it in the comin

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > Recently there has been a controversy on Wikipedia in German about > extra articles in simple language. Authors of its medical group wanted > to create sub pages suitable for children, believing in an urgent > need. [1] > > In the

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy "one language - one Wikipedia"

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Ting Chen wrote: > *Earth* (or *the Earth*) is the third planet > from the Sun > , the fifth-largest and the densest of > the eight planets in the Solar System >

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