Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica

2009-06-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Wednesday 10 June 2009 16:36:38 Florence Devouard написа: But frankly, I am super pleased to find out that one of the pict I uploaded 4 years ago are now featured in Britannica :-) And they made a honest effort to be GFDL-compliant. I wonder how many more such images are there.

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica

2009-06-10 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Nikola Smolenskismole...@eunet.yu wrote: Дана Wednesday 10 June 2009 16:36:38 Florence Devouard написа: But frankly, I am super pleased to find out that one of the pict I uploaded 4 years ago are now featured in Britannica :-) And they made a honest effort to

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-27 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Do we know people at Arvato? SJ Yes (more precisely: at Wissen Media and at InmediaOne] ) Mathias ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-27 Thread Samuel Klein
That's great. It might be valuable to share notes on collaborations between old-school encyclopedic media groups and Wikipedians in various countries. I see a few classes of collabs possible * between traditional editing teams and Wikipedians. These teams, including those being laid off by

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-26 Thread Samuel Klein
Do we know people at Arvato? SJ On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Eek! What's happening to the content? There are/were several ways to access the content of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful: javascript:(function(){Darwin.Upsell.deactivate();})() Thanks! It works

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/23 Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:06 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Britannica is notoriously antagonistic toward Wikipedia in its advertising, but Brockhaus for instance isn't anywhere near as obnoxious (they're not *fans* of

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Eek! What's happening to the content? There are/were several ways to access the content of the actual core Brockhaus encyclopedia: 1. Buy the book. 30 volumes, 2700€ - 3100€, depending on your payment plan:

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2008/12/22 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@gmail.com: 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: And Britannica has this totally weird feature - the article loads itself as soon as the scrollbar progresses through it. So even if it is free as in beer, it is obnoxiously inconvenient to copy text

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2008/12/22 teun spaans teun.spa...@gmail.com: but possibly illegal you can omit the word possibly. I dont see a copy left license at their site. It may be possible to copy from EB under fair use terms. On Wikipedia i don't even need to think about that (except some images...). -- Amir Elisha

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Nikola Smolenski
teun spaans wrote: but possibly illegal you can omit the word possibly. I dont see a copy left license at their site. You can copy it for your personal use :°♫ On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@gmail.comwrote: 2008/12/22 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@gmail.com:

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful: javascript:(function(){Darwin.Upsell.deactivate();})() Put it in a bookmark in your toolbar and click it to get rid of the annoying box. It doesn't come back until

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: If I understood well, the content of the online edition of Britannica became free (as in free beer, of course). They are putting some irritating screen with recommendation

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread geni
2008/12/22 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: They called the function upsell? *facepalm* Wikipedia doesn't need to do anything to compete with Britannica, just leave them to collapse under the weight of their own ineptitude. We should probably run a large public Save Britannica! campaign - how

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Goodman
Upsell is the name of the leading market research company in publishing--probably they are the ones who designed it. I'm suprised, for they are generally known as competent. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: On Mon,

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:17 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful:

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Goodman
Sorry, wrong company name--I was thinking of another one --a truly competent one, Outsell, that has undoubtedly nothing to do with this nonsensical method of protection. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:20 PM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com wrote: Upsell is the name of the leading market research

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: Then, I wanted to see what is the value of Britannica; without success. It is a private company (in US sense of that meaning; public companies in European sense are just companies owned by some local or state government; and in some specific

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2008/12/22 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: Then, I wanted to see what is the value of Britannica; without success. It is a private company (in US sense of that meaning; public companies in European sense are just companies owned by some local or

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com: I don't like guys from Wikmedia projects speaking in some sort of supremacy language. Our goal is to create: a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. so if the Britannica or PWN or any other

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] (A tangential note: I consider NPOV to be our most important innovation - much more radical than merely letting anyone edit your encyclopedia. The concept of neutrality has existed in various guises, but not like

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: (A tangential note: I consider NPOV to be our most important innovation - much more radical than merely letting anyone edit your encyclopedia. The concept of neutrality has

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Hay (Husky)
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I checked a larger biography, and it looked complete to me. Note that it uses ajax to load article sections as you scroll to them, so you have to scroll up and down the page to trigger all the ajax loads before you can

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Aude
I noticed that Britannica is using some creative commons images from Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. Example: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic-art/589288/113374/Courthouse-in-Denton-Texas http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Courthouse_Denton_TX.jpg -Aude

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Delirium
David Gerard wrote: (A tangential note: I consider NPOV to be our most important innovation - much more radical than merely letting anyone edit your encyclopedia. The concept of neutrality has existed in various guises, but not like Wikipedia does it, with the consequences it has as a source

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Tim Starling
David Goodman wrote: Upsell is the name of the leading market research company in publishing--probably they are the ones who designed it. I'm suprised, for they are generally known as competent. No, that would be upsell as in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up-selling I'd give you a Britannica

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-21 Thread Tim Starling
Milos Rancic wrote: If I understood well, the content of the online edition of Britannica became free (as in free beer, of course). They are putting some irritating screen with recommendation to buy access to their edition every 10 seconds (or so), but, in fact, it is possible to copy-paste