Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-03 Thread Jody Goldberg
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:58:23PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: You said: OOXML is going to be the defacto standard whether we like it or not. The defacto standard implies there is only one, and the sentence says it is not ODF. That is a very good point Richard. I agree

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Alan Cox
will believe it. Not a great way to encourage respectful discussion on this list, Nor is putting in strange references to ultimatums off private lists. That makes it very hard to follow, so thanks for explaining where it came from. As for trashing you, it seems any comment about the boards

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Alan Cox As for trashing you, it seems any comment about the boards actions or activities that is the slighest bit negative or in disagreement with yourself you take as a personal insult and follow up in flowery language attempting to supress the dissent by acting hurt. I pointed

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Alan Cox
I pointed out behaviour that I thought was inappropriate and unproductive. So did I ... I suggest you take a gander at the Code of Conduct So do I ... ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le dimanche 04 novembre 2007 à 01:27 +1100, Jeff Waugh a écrit : I suggest you take a gander at the Code of Conduct, and figure a more constructive way to contribute to the community. Wow .. implying Alan Cox isn't a good contributor to the community sounds weird.

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-03 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:01:04PM -0400, Jody Goldberg wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:53:15PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: | ECMA = European Computer Manufacturers Association http://www.ecma-international.org An umbrella organisation for creating standards. The name is now

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-03 Thread Richard Stallman
The membership can still push for a change from not supporting to actively opposing given the debate now is more active. What does 'actively oppose' mean in concrete terms ? - Asking frivolous questions ? - Writing bad documentation ? - Starting flame wars on the mailing

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, Things I have learned during this time at the board: 1 - Voting busy candidates is risky if not counterproductive. 2 - Running for election when you are busy is risky if not counterproductive. 3 - Seven members is what you need to run efficiently a board. 4 - Even a board of busy members can

Announcement of 2007 Board of Directors Election

2007-11-03 Thread Baris Cicek
Who can vote? - To be able to vote, you need to be a member of the GNOME Foundation and your membership needs to be valid at least until the end of the elections. For example, a member whose membership ends on November 30th 2007 won't be able to vote for the elections. A notification

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-03 Thread Jody Goldberg
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:58:34PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: However, the rest of the situations are not analogous. The ECMA committee has explicitly undertaken to make OOXML an ISO standard. If Gnumeric had explicitly undertaken to facilitate the sale of addictive drugs, that would

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-03 Thread Jody Goldberg
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:48:29PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: The membership can still push for a change from not supporting to actively opposing given the debate now is more active. What does 'actively oppose' mean in concrete terms ? - Asking frivolous questions ?