Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Stormy Peters
I enjoyed reading everyone's responses. And while I agree with Jason that a mailing list is not the best way to reach a proposal and consensus, I do think it's really important for us to have this discussion as a project and for everyone to be able to follow along. I just have a few thoughts I'd

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Stormy Peters
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Stormy Peters stormy.pet...@gmail.comwrote: * The desktop market is not growing. We can continue to define ourselves as a desktop but that's not a growing market. I'm not talking about Linux versus Windows, I'm talking about desktop vs mobile. The average

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Stallman
I'm not talking about Linux versus Windows, Linux and Windows are not comparable: Windows is a complete operating system, but Linux is just a kernel. I think you must have in mind the rivalry between Windows and the GNU/Linux system. When what you're really talking about is GNU, please

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: GNU/Linux is mostly used on PCs, but we want it to be used on tablets and phones too. Thus, making GNOME work well on those machines is useful. However, until the day people prefer to do programming on a tablet, the

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: GNU/Linux is mostly used on PCs, but we want it to be used on tablets and phones too. Thus, making GNOME work well on those machines is useful. However, until

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: Is the GNU system for programmers only ? I doubt that is what you mean. I'm sure it isn't. I know :-), I'm just pointing out that's what it looked like. The

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 27 November 2012 19:51, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: When what you're really talking about is GNU, please don't call it Linux -- particularly in the context of a GNU activity such as this ne. We started GNOME so that GNU/Linux would have a 100% free software desktop environment,