2007-12-21 klockan 00:49 skrev Federico Mena Quintero:
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 18:33 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
So either the list of guidelines is horribly long, or the co-maintainers
are not doing their job. I'd like to know who they are, if you please,
so that I can help :)
done!
http://live.gnome.org/HackergotchiGuidelines
cheers,
El dg 30 de 12 del 2007 a les 19:10 +0100, en/na Wouter Bolsterlee va
escriure:
2007-12-21 klockan 00:49 skrev Federico Mena Quintero:
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 18:33 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
So either the list of
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 18:33 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 15:06 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
I just find it funny that this has been going on since September.
That's three months to write a few guidelines and give the OK to some
co-maintainers.
So either the list
On Dec 19, 2007 4:26 AM, Philip Van Hoof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 18:33 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 15:06 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
I just find it funny that this has been going on since September.
That's three months to write a few
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 15:06 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
Who's on the potential maintainership team for PGO, so that we may
inquire them about the progress?
Sorry, but I'm not going to get caught up in pointless crap like this. Some
folks may think it's okay
I have not used Planet GNOME, and I have no opinions about how it is
run. However, a site without editorial control, on which people can
post whatever they like, should not be the public face of GNOME. If
it is perceived that way, that is a problem.
To solve this problem does not necessarily
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 14:34 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
I have not used Planet GNOME, and I have no opinions about how it is
run. However, a site without editorial control, on which people can
post whatever they like, should not be the public face of GNOME. If
it is perceived that way,
On Dec 14, 2007 11:38 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Julien PUYDT
You've been asked to be more open, don't get annoyed if people are pissed
by closed non-answers!
I'm mostly annoyed at the attitude rather than the questions (even the ones
that have already been
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 18:38 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Julien PUYDT
You've been asked to be more open, don't get annoyed if people are pissed
by closed non-answers!
I'm mostly annoyed at the attitude rather than the questions (even the ones
that have already been answered). I
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 08:24 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
The module's maintainership isn't sucking in general, but there have been a
number of periods in which it hasn't been great. Please don't make this out
to be worse than it is, that kind of approach doesn't help resolve anything.
What I want
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
What I want to resolve is this:
So do I, as already noted.
Sucking guidelines out of my head --- that's exactly the kind of problem
we need to solve.
That's why I mentioned it.
- Jeff
--
linux.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australia
Federico,
Thank you for spearheading this. My experience with PGO has been very
smooth and I definitely do not have any complaints about the
maintenance of it. However, a few weeks ago there were several posts
with a very different view of it. I agree with your initiative to turn
this great
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 09:51 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
What I want to resolve is this:
So do I, as already noted.
Sucking guidelines out of my head --- that's exactly the kind of
problem
we need to solve.
That's why I mentioned it.
But please don't
quote who=Og Maciel
Federico,
Thank you for spearheading this.
Please don't turn this into something it is not. I had already been working
on this before threads on this list, and before Federico's recent mails. It
is not particularly motivating to see the issue approached in this way.
-
On Dec 14, 2007 10:54 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please don't turn this into something it is not. I had already been working
on this before threads on this list, and before Federico's recent mails. It
is not particularly motivating to see the issue approached in this way.
Dude,
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
But please don't ignore the question I asked:
Who's on the potential maintainership team for PGO, so that we may
inquire them about the progress?
Sorry, but I'm not going to get caught up in pointless crap like this. Some
folks may think it's okay to treat
On Dec 14, 2007 11:09 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You thanked Federico for his efforts. That's what I read, and that's what
I responded to.
Definitions of effort on the Web:
* attempt: earnest and conscientious activity intended to do or
accomplish something; made an effort to
On Dec 14, 2007 11:17 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, I should have avoided responding to the trolling in the first place.
Wow... Really first class response. Good job at avoiding an answer too
--
Og B. Maciel
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quote who=Julien PUYDT
You've been asked to be more open, don't get annoyed if people are pissed
by closed non-answers!
I'm mostly annoyed at the attitude rather than the questions (even the ones
that have already been answered). I don't really feel an obligation to give
answers to people who
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
It's somewhat more intricate than that -- I'm writing it up atm, so
people can understand the decision making process (guidelines). That's
the first step. :-)
Ping. Any progress on this, so the editorial policy can be linked from
Planet?
Also, Dave's
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 22:38 -0400, Germán Poó Caamaño wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 18:02 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
[snip]
What I mean is that once you are syndicated in Planet, you can post
whatever you want.
That's why we have people posting all sorts of things that are not
On 9/12/07, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:...
3. Jeff doesn't like you.
4. Jeff doesn't like your blog.
5. Jeff doesn't like your politics.
6. Neither you nor your blog is elite enough.
7. planet.gnome.org in an old boys club.
-1
...
Which is why a transparent process is really
На чет, 2007-09-13 во 09:40 +0200, Luca Cappelletti напиша:
Which is why a transparent process is really really
important.
Requests should be handled through bugzilla because then
everyone can see that it is all open and all allegations about
nepotism
Hi,
Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
For my part, if I had anything else to argue it would be that
p.g.o. should be handled by a formal team whos members could
be subject to change from time to time (as I suggested before,
possibly a marketing team or web team) - as opposed to add
someone else
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007, à 17:37 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
Because despite Gnome is people, I think that for most people, Planet
Gnome is primarily about Gnome.
No. The way planet started, it was about people. Or friends in fact.
I personally am not interested in reading an
quote who=Vincent Untz
But I'm 100% fine with this since we still didn't change most of the world
to understand French; hopefully we will get there soon! ;-)
This would be an entirely reasonable catalyst for applying censorship to
Planet GNOME.
- Jeff
--
GNOME.conf.au 2008: Melbourne,
On 9/13/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Planet GNOME is about the people moreso than the project. We talk about the
project *all the time*. The reason why I started Planet GNOME (and Planet!)
was to read about and better understand the *people*. That's why full feeds
are preferred over
Vincent Untz wrote, On 13/09/07 11:00:
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007, à 17:37 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
Because despite Gnome is people, I think that for most people, Planet
Gnome is primarily about Gnome.
No. The way planet started, it was about people. Or friends in fact.
I
quote who=Alvaro Lopez Ortega
The planet is not a newspaper or a magazine, it is just a planet. That
censorship / editorial line idea doesn't make any sense to me.
I hope that this is a similar effect to that of great design -- you don't
notice the editorship because Planet is highly readable
quote who=Alvaro Lopez Ortega
Jeff Waugh wrote, On 13/09/07 11:43:
The planet is not a newspaper or a magazine, it is just a planet.
That censorship / editorial line idea doesn't make any sense to me.
I hope that this is a similar effect to that of great design -- you
don't
I am more concerned about big posters, posting almost everyday some
long text and for who I have never seen any GNOME related post, and
who I never read anything from them except their blog on planet
(should I really give names ?).
People complain about the number of posts everyday and the
Hi,
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
I would suggest opening pgo as a free-for-all for those with commit access
Just so everyone knows: That is *extremely* unlikely to happen. There has
been significant support for the editorial stewardship of Planet GNOME for
ages
On 9/12/07, Tristan Van Berkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That way you get democracy at both ends - posting and viewing.
GNOME is not democratic. :-)
Well, gnome is people that have a choice to contribute or not - making
those people (i.e. you me and everyone else) feel accepted and
Tristan Van Berkom a écrit :
I think its important to note here that giving someone access to blog
on planet gnome is like publicly aknowlaging that they are indeed a part
of the gnome community - people who contribute to the project need to
feel like they are part of the project.
Agreed. And
quote who=Tristan Van Berkom
*sigh*, I wonder what you are basing this claim on, maybe there's an
archived thread that you could reffer us to which details that ?
Unfortunately my blog didn't have comments at the time, so most of the
responses to this were on IRC or by mail. It's mentioned
Hi,
Julien PUYDT wrote:
Tristan Van Berkom a écrit :
I think its important to note here that giving someone access to blog
on planet gnome is like publicly aknowlaging that they are indeed a part
of the gnome community - people who contribute to the project need to
feel like they are part
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 19:11 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
At what point do we recognise that editorial control is necessary for
the planet to remain a useful resource?
OK. But please, could someone tell us what's this Editorial Control all
about?
How does this Editorial Control balances with the
On 9/12/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm just not going to get caught up in all this alarmism about censorship. I
can't imagine why anyone would think I could get away with actual censorship
of Planet... it would be laughable if it wasn't so mean spirited.
It is not true, but it is
On 9/12/07, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not true, but it is not laughable. I don't for a second doubt
that you do not censor planet.gnome.org. But many months ago I emailed
you and asked to get my blog syndicated. I never got any reply and
left it as that because I didn't
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
[...]
Planet GNOME without a strong editorial control would probably suck.
Just like maintainers vouch and check patches in each of their modules,
we need to have some control on blogs getting added to planet. And
that's Jeff's module...
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 04:00 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
[...]
It's also related to *why* people
want to be on Planet GNOME -- for instance, it sucks that some people make
blogs solely to be published on Planet GNOME.
Curiously, why does that suck ?
Not everybody likes to make a hobby
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 12:21 -0400, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
Well, gnome is people that have a choice to contribute or not - making
those people (i.e. you me and everyone else) feel accepted and important
is central to having a healthy project where everyone wants to be
involved.
But if
quote who=Steve Frécinaux
I'd even go one step further saying than most people care about gnome and
gnome apps, and not about one's cats and the other's culinar niceties.
Because despite Gnome is people, I think that for most people, Planet
Gnome is primarily about Gnome.
Well, that's
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
The current editorial control is simply more or less if you ever did
something peripherally related to GNOME, you can be on Planet, regardless
of what you post.
It's somewhat more intricate than that -- I'm writing it up atm, so people
can understand the
quote who=Pascal Terjan
I think that asking people to have tags/categories on their blogs and not
aggregate everything would be better than having all the content of the
ones who arrived first.
Planet GNOME is about the people moreso than the project. We talk about the
project *all the time*.
quote who=Jeff Waugh
That's why full feeds are preferred over GNOME-specific tags
Minor point: I do mean 'preferred'. If someone has a good reason for wanting
only their GNOME-related posts on Planet I'm cool with that, but I always go
back to ask before putting them up. So no knicker-twisting,
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 18:02 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 09:13 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
We have no editorial control. Get over it :)
We absolutely *do* have editorial control at the moment. The challenge I
have at the
I often just sit in #commits on irc.gnome.org...
Works pretty well for me :)
Cheers,
Kevin Kubasik
On 9/11/07, Paolo Borelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Il giorno lun, 10/09/2007 alle 17.40 -0400, Claudio Saavedra ha scritto:
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 17:01 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 21:56 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
I know Planet GNOME maintenance has been patchy -- I've been thinking about
ways to alleviate that while keeping strong editorship in place. The Board
has prompted me about this too, so I have plenty of
Hi,
David Bolter wrote:
I like this idea. I guess if we trust someone to commit code we should
trust them not to abuse the planet... errr at least not planet-gnome
anyways.
Some editorial control for planet is essential - there are already so
many feeds that the planet's become less useful
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:30 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
planet-web already exists, but making it a free-for-all isn't a useful
solution.
I re-read http://perkypants.org/blog/2005/06/10/1118362980/ and it
mentions the possibility of making the SVN module essentially a
free-for-all.
.. And I quite
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:30 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:30 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
planet-web already exists, but making it a free-for-all isn't a useful
solution.
I re-read http://perkypants.org/blog/2005/06/10/1118362980/ and it
mentions the
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 13:39 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
If you are feeling super-paranoid, we can have a Planet module on
bugzilla, and we can point people to a page with instructions:
1. Get a bugzilla account.
2. File a bug under the Planet module.
3. A number of Trusted
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:05 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
Put another way, I would find it uncomfortable to say someone sorry,
you don't belong here, so these situations should be avoided.
I think that adding a requirement for the applicant to have someone from
the community to sponsor
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:50 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:05 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
Put another way, I would find it uncomfortable to say someone sorry,
you don't belong here, so these situations should be avoided.
I think that adding a
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 17:19 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Some editorial control for planet is essential - there are already so
many feeds that the planet's become less useful - we're up to 50 or 60
posts a day.
The question is how to marry reactivity to requests and accountability
with that
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:29:35AM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:47:31PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
And this all is naturally from the developer/maintainer POV, as
translators and documentors do not benefit from this as
Hi all,
Could you please move this discussion to d-d-l and/or
gnome-infrastructure? This mailing list is definitely not the place to
discuss SCM in GNOME.
Thanks,
--lucasr
2007/9/10, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:29:35AM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
2007/9/8,
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 21:56 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
I know Planet GNOME maintenance has been patchy -- I've been thinking about
ways to alleviate that while keeping strong editorship in place. The Board
has prompted me about this too, so I have plenty of incentive to resolve it
without any
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 10:17 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
Hi, Olav,
You are ignoring the central place. You need somewhere all GNOME devs
are able to commit. This is what is so wrong about
www.gnome.org/~foo/git/.
The interesting question is, why are people doing ~foo/git/blah in the
first
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 14:43 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
Does this need to be any more complicated than having a planet-gnome
module on SVN, and a README that says to add someone to the feed, put
him in people.xml? Then anyone who has a SVN account can add someone
else to Planet.
Hi,
On 9/10/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
svn-commits-list exists and you can limit the email receive to one or
more projects (or all).
Right, but like I said I'm not sure it scales anymore; there's too
much stuff in svn to want to get an email per commit. If you limit to
only your
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 03:05:18PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 10:17 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
Hi, Olav,
You are ignoring the central place. You need somewhere all GNOME devs
are able to commit. This is what is so wrong about
www.gnome.org/~foo/git/.
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 17:01 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Then the daily summary could be in the planet gnome feed, perhaps.
I don't know, I'm sure there are better solutions, and it's academic
unless someone turns up who decides to try and code something. Just
throwing out ideas.
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 16:21 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
That's the way things are handled ATM. With the exception that only Jeff
is supposed to commit to the appropriate file (there's a README or
HACKING somewhere there).
Well, we can certainly stea^H^H^H^Hfree Jeff from the drudgery of
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:23:28PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 16:21 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
That's the way things are handled ATM. With the exception that only Jeff
is supposed to commit to the appropriate file (there's a README or
HACKING somewhere
On 9/8/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Sanford Armstrong
I simply meant that less people are familiar with D-SCM tools and that
they are somewhat harder for a newbie to learn than C-SCM tools.
This is an unfortunate cultural relic created by arch/tla, and hilariously
Hi,
I hate to do this but... again... please move this discussion to a
more appropriate mailing list like d-d-l or gnome-infrastructure.
Thanks,
--lucasr
2007/9/11, Sanford Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 9/8/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Sanford Armstrong
I simply
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 16:41 -0700, Sanford Armstrong wrote:
On 9/8/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Sanford Armstrong
I simply meant that less people are familiar with D-SCM tools and that
they are somewhat harder for a newbie to learn than C-SCM tools.
This is an
quote who=Havoc Pennington
Bringing it back to the present, there's stuff on svn.mugshot.org that
really belongs on gnome.org, but it seems it didn't end up there. I don't
think this was a conscious thing, but I think it probably was due to just
enough of a barrier to create a new gnome
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 13:24 +0200, Steve Frécinaux wrote:
Then you just do not create a new branch, commit when you're done on the
master branch, and push the patch once it is ready, or attach it to a
bugzilla bug using git-send-bugzilla [1]. Note that git allows you to
amend a commit, ie
On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 18:49 +0200, Christian Rose wrote:
Nothing is ever solved by letting others be
responsible for solving problems that may have been introduced by you.
Or vice versa. That's a basic fact in SCM.
But more often than not the build is left broken by a translator.
--
behdad
2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:47:31PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 05:56:38AM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote:
Let's summarize it as: I don't know any D-SCM :-) (only investigate by
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:35:55PM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote:
While I don't wish to sound trite, I do think almost everyone here
knows what everyone else is going to say, and maybe trying to
headstart the discussion is a bad move, and presumptuous, but allow me
to throw out an idea.
I
I should start by saying, I used the word 'git' here to really mean
most any dscm. I personally use Mercurial for my school stuff, (small
3-4 person development teams on shorter term projects) and I use bzr
with Launchpad daily. I would recommend against choosing bzr simply
because the performance
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 05:56:38AM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote:
I should start by saying, I used the word 'git' here to really mean
most any dscm. I personally use Mercurial for my school stuff, (small
Ok. I think if we choose something, it should something we want to
switch to. E.g., if we try
On 9/8/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 03:23:31PM +0300, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
Hi!
Was hard to sleep last night after i sent my last message so i must
clarify something before i attempt to answer anyone's reply:
You need to look at it a bit
2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 05:56:38AM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote:
Let's summarize it as: I don't know any D-SCM :-) (only investigate by
checking out docs)
(but I am also not interested in learning a SCM)
Hopefully that doesn't translate I don't know and
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:47:31PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 05:56:38AM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote:
Let's summarize it as: I don't know any D-SCM :-) (only investigate by
checking out docs)
(but I am also not interested
Zeeshan Ali a écrit :
About the svn access, all centralized VCS's are meant for
dictatorships. If the gnome foundation really wants to improve the
situation, i recommend moving to git or some other non-distributed VCS
instead of brain-dead centralized svn for the following reason:
At one
Since this discussion seems to have rapidly devolved from discussing
slow Sysadmin response times to a futile debate over revision control,
I'll share my $0.02 on both topics.
1) Gnome Systems - This is always going to be less than perfect, but
the current state of affairs is almost embarrassing.
7 sep 2007 kl. 13.15 skrev Zeeshan Ali:
Hi,
Hi!
That being said, I can't help but notice that svn itself isn't the
cause
of the problem :
Maybe not in this case, but there wouldn't have been a problem (at
least not a big one) in the first place if this was a matter of
write-access
Luca Cappelletti a écrit :
You made the righe choose changing to sourceforge, you can go to launchpad
or savannah nongnu, very good place to work...
No such choice has been made yet.
Snark
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On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:57:19AM +0300, Zeeshan Ali wrote:
About the svn access, all centralized VCS's are meant for
dictatorships. If the gnome foundation really wants to improve the
situation, i recommend moving to git or some other non-distributed VCS
instead of brain-dead centralized
On 9/6/07, Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, I am more and more disappointed by the way some people
*control* that community, even if they never contributed anything back
to it.
Hello,
totally agreed with you.
To much politics into GNOME...but it works!!
To much
Hi!
On 9/7/07, Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I think to Julien, I am also getting mad.
He has been contributing to Ekiga for 5 years. He recently created a
blog and asked to Jeff to be added on planet.gnome.org. He was first
ignored, then Jeff told him that he had to post
Hi!
1. Developers can clone the main repo and the maintainers (people with
write-access) can just pull from their cloned repos. This way a
developer won't really need write access and he'll just keep on
committing his changes to his repo and inform the maintainer(s) about
his newest cool
While I don't wish to sound trite, I do think almost everyone here
knows what everyone else is going to say, and maybe trying to
headstart the discussion is a bad move, and presumptuous, but allow me
to throw out an idea.
I think we are more or less in agreement that:
1) git would lower the
Hello,
As a long time contributor to the GNOME project, I will take the freedom
to directly mail the foundation about the current problems I experience
in the GNOME community.
You probably know that I started contributing to GNOME in my spare time
back in 2000. I have dedicated countless hours
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:19:49PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote:
You probably know that I started contributing to GNOME in my spare time
back in 2000. I have dedicated countless hours to my project,
GnomeMeeting, now known as Ekiga. It means 7 years of development,
exclusively done during
Hi Damien,
The problems you raise are real, and not unknown to the community and
the foundation board at all. However, I'm not sure who you have in mind
when you say am more and more disappointed by the way some people
*control* that community, even if they never contributed anything back
to
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