Re: relicensing to GPLv3-family of licenses (was Re: Distribution Naming System)

2014-04-17 Thread Sébastien Wilmet
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:02:31PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > To move things forward, the best is probably to create a GNOME goal: > https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/GnomeGoals > > Can you help me do this, Sebastian? I wanted to create a new Gnome goal candidate, but in this page:

Re: relicensing to GPLv3-family of licenses (was Re: Distribution Naming System)

2014-04-16 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Some libraries such as GLib and GTK+ are licensed under the LGPLv2-or-later,

Re: relicensing to GPLv3-family of licenses (was Re: Distribution Naming System)

2014-04-13 Thread Sébastien Wilmet
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 08:26:52AM -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > RMS wrote at 12:58 (EDT) on Monday: > >>> For many libraries, using LGPLv2.1 may be best, to allow use in > >>> GPLv2-covered programs. > > I have to disagree with RMS on this point. As I proposed on > desktop-devel a long time ag

relicensing to GPLv3-family of licenses (was Re: Distribution Naming System)

2014-04-11 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Sébastien Wilmet wrote at 15:35 (EDT) on Sunday: > We can also upgrade our software licences to the GPLv3 and LGPLv3. While this is a separate issue from the main thread, I must admit that I personally would very much like to see this happen. I gave a talk at GUADEC four or five years ago now exp

Re: Distribution Naming System

2014-04-07 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I don't understand. If the licence mentions "or later", I thought it was pos

Re: Distribution Naming System

2014-04-07 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Most embedded creators hate v3 due to the "Tivoization" clause, e.g. Tivoization

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-07 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The basic point of your message is a variant of a FAQ, http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-lin

Re: Distribution Naming System

2014-04-07 Thread Jens Georg
And I don't understand how an upgrade to the (L)GPLv3 would be a decline for the GNOME ecosystem. Most embedded creators hate v3 due to the "Tivoization" clause, e.g. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org

Re: Distribution Naming System

2014-04-07 Thread Sébastien Wilmet
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 10:11:29AM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > I think that yes: the GNOME website should link back to the GNU > website in the "about" section. care to file a bug? Done: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727740 > > We can also upgrade our software licences to the GPL

Re: Distribution Naming System

2014-04-07 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi; On 6 April 2014 20:35, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 07:17:59PM +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> systemd, CoreOS, LLVM, OpenStack, LibreOffice, GitLab... there are so many >> interesting problems and critical to software freedom being solved outside >> of the GNU umbrella the

Re: Distribution Naming System

2014-04-06 Thread Sébastien Wilmet
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 07:17:59PM +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > systemd, CoreOS, LLVM, OpenStack, LibreOffice, GitLab... there are so many > interesting problems and critical to software freedom being solved outside > of the GNU umbrella these days. GNOME is still a GNU project, but GNOME doesn't

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-06 Thread Alberto Ruiz
As much as I would like to call this thread off and stop the off topic trend, I can't help but get this out of my chest: Richard, I think you should think about why GNU got itself in such situation, the GNU project failed to build a brand and communicate an appealing message, Linux built a great b

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-06 Thread Richard Hughes
On 3 April 2014 19:18, Richard Stallman wrote: > That's true. Most distros do not recognize that this system is > basically GNU; they give the credit for the GNU Project's work > to Mr Torvalds, rather than to us. By calling it Linux, I'm also not recognizing the work of the Apache foundation. I

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] By calling it Linux, I'm also not recognizing the work of the Apache foundati

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I have done a

Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-03 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I have done a quick search on the 'active' distributions on DistroWatch.com a

Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

2014-04-03 Thread Ali/amjjawad
Dear Mr. Stallman, First of all, it is a pleasure to be with you on the same mailing list. You have my full respect! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution again