Accessibility liaisons [was: Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010]

2010-12-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:32 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Juanjo Marin wrote: Is there already any page with a list organizations ? We can work it out in a dossier about what is GNOME and about a11y GNOME tecnologies. Not that I know of. I just started one in the wiki.

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:52 -0800, Fernando Herrera wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve their users who primarily use

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-19 Thread Richard Stallman
Since we're talking about GNOME and accessibility, it would be useful to include Chris Hofstader, the GNU access technology coordinator, c...@gnu.org. He is trying to find resources for work on GNOME accessibility. -- Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Bill Cox
Not that I'm particularly well informed here, but having e-mail chatted with the NVDA guys about porting to Linux, and the Orca guys about porting to windows, and after reading a bit of the code and e-mail on the dev lists... Porting Orca to Windows or NVDA to Linux just isn't going to happen.

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 00:35, Juanjo Marin juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 09:02 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Based on the Orca

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Cesar Mauri Loba
Hi, Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be focussing more on NVDA because it works on Windows). Just thought

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Cesar Mauri
El 17/12/2010 12:21, Piñeiro escribió: So now the problems. Take into account that turn Orca cross-platform is not just be able to compile Orca on Windows. There are more pieces that it would be required to turn: * at-spi: Orca is a screen reader that gets all the information from at-spi.

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Eitan Isaacson
I agree with Cesar. In Orca's upcoming refactor a certain level of abstraction should be provided to allow porting to different platforms. Maybe in some kind of future NVDA and Orca could actually share a codebase or at least some modules. But this is just wishful thinking for now. This is how

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Peter Korn
Cesar,  El 17/12/2010 12:21, Piñeiro escribió: ... So, turn cross-platform Orca means turns two modules, and create a new one. This is a really big amount of work to do. And we enter in a vicious circle. You proposed

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-18 Thread Steve Lee
On 18 December 2010 06:46, Peter Korn peter.k...@oracle.com wrote: Cesar, However, IMHO, I think that this approach could be taken into account for some new AT projects, especially those less dependant on specific api's (for instance, I'm thinking of AAC software). Beyond probably

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-17 Thread Fernando Herrera
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve their users who primarily use Windows. Obviously this will be an issue when searching for funding

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-17 Thread Piñeiro
From: Cesar Mauri Loba ce...@crea-si.com Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be focussing more on NVDA because it

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-17 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Juanjo Marin wrote: Is there already any page with a list organizations ? We can work it out in a dossier about what is GNOME and about a11y GNOME tecnologies. Not that I know of. I just started one in the wiki. http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/HandicapAssociations Cheers, Dave. --

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Ben Konrath
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested in seeing Orca

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Richard Stallman
What about those companies deploying linux desktops in masse in public organizations? From time to time appear in the news some big European city or government department that has migrated their desktops to Linux. That's impossible. Linux is just a kernel -- it cannot run a

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Juanjo Marin
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 09:02 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Juanjo Marin
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 22:58 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: Aha, well, yes. For starters: * Speech recognition would be useful for at least some people with print learning disabilities as well as for certain people with physical disabilities. * Caribou,

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-16 Thread Juanjo Marin
El jue, 16-12-2010 a las 09:02 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:28, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-15 Thread Ben Konrath
Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-08 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Brian Cameron wrote: * Joanmarie Diggs joined the meeting to give an update on GNOME accessibility. snip o A $40,000 budget for FY2012 would help the a11y project. o The GNOME Foundation currently has a $20,000 a11y budget. Half is allocated for

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-08 Thread Brian Cameron
Stormy: Attending * Stormy Peters I was not there but I think about you all lots! Oops, corrected in the Wiki minutes. Brian ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-08 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hi All. Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be focussing more on NVDA because it works on Windows). Where is the Orca

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-08 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
CCing the list as you replied to the copy of my message which never made it to the list because I sent it via the wrong address. :-/ Sorry about that. On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 21:01 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Joanmarie, What I'm getting at is, if there were features which were particularly

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-08 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: Aha, well, yes. For starters: * Speech recognition would be useful for at least some people with print learning disabilities as well as for certain people with physical disabilities. * Caribou, especially were its functionality further expanded, would be

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-08 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 22:58 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: Aha, well, yes. For starters: * Speech recognition would be useful for at least some people with print learning disabilities as well as for certain people with physical disabilities. * Caribou,

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-07 Thread Stormy Peters
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: The meeting minutes for the November 11th GNOME Foundation board meeting is now published. Refer here: Attending * Stormy Peters I was not there but I think about you all lots! Stormy