Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-19 Thread Dan Winship
Luis Villa wrote: Trademark law doesn't give us the flexibility we want, which leaves us with options (as I see it) that are basically: * pursue the Mozilla route (strong trademark)... * collaborate with our lawyers to create and pursue a completely novel/untested/potentially completely undefens

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 12/17/05, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 18:30 +, Alan Cox wrote: > [snip] > > Having a logo for a program which is a > > "gnome program" and for "gnome developer" ought to be doable given the > > right definition, and "foundation member" is definitely one

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 18:30 +, Alan Cox wrote: [snip] > Having a logo for a program which is a > "gnome program" and for "gnome developer" ought to be doable given the > right definition, and "foundation member" is definitely one that can be > done today as the foundation has a defined membersh

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 12/17/05, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sad, 2005-12-17 at 11:32 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: > > IANAL (yet), but... under US trademark law (and most European > > trademark law, as I understand it) basically all users of the mark > > must ask us for permission before use. We cannot adopt

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Sad, 2005-12-17 at 11:32 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: > IANAL (yet), but... under US trademark law (and most European > trademark law, as I understand it) basically all users of the mark > must ask us for permission before use. We cannot adopt a permission > scheme which allows any use of the logo w

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 12/17/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/17/05, Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Luis: > > > > IMO there may be yet another option, i.e. the 'Debian' route, where we > > have one logo package (the default?) that's not trademarked (though IMO > > the 'GNOME' name shou

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 12/17/05, Bill Haneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Luis: > > IMO there may be yet another option, i.e. the 'Debian' route, where we > have one logo package (the default?) that's not trademarked (though IMO > the 'GNOME' name should remain trademarked), and one, downloadable from > gnome.org,

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 12/17/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IANAL (yet), but... under US trademark law (and most European > trademark law, as I understand it) basically all users of the mark > must ask us for permission before use. We cannot adopt a permission > scheme which allows any use of the logo whi

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Luis: IMO there may be yet another option, i.e. the 'Debian' route, where we have one logo package (the default?) that's not trademarked (though IMO the 'GNOME' name should remain trademarked), and one, downloadable from gnome.org, which is trademarked and therefore (perhaps ironically) not

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Quim Gil
En/na Luis Villa ha escrit: > * give up the legally enforceable mark and use a political party > approach- accept that there will be some uses we don't like and can't > control, but use the mechanisms of party (speech, platform creation, > etc.) to control the mark as much as possible outside of

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Luis Villa
On 12/17/05, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About Ray's package and Luis Villa's post: > http://tieguy.org/blog/index.cgi/524 > > I think the Foundation needs official logos owned by the Foundation to > be used by the official GNOME projects in order to give consistancy to > the GNOME brand.

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Quim Gil
About Ray's package and Luis Villa's post: http://tieguy.org/blog/index.cgi/524 I think the Foundation needs official logos owned by the Foundation to be used by the official GNOME projects in order to give consistancy to the GNOME brand. But I also think that we should make a more extensive use

gnome-logos package

2005-12-15 Thread Ray Strode
(Sending to foundation-list because I think the people that are most interested with trademark issues are on this list) Hi, One thing that I think GNOME is missing right now is a packaged set of logos that gnome applications can use. We do have logos here: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/random/logo