Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak I would suggest opening pgo as a free-for-all for those with commit access Just so everyone knows: That is *extremely* unlikely to happen. There has been significant support for the editorial stewardship of Planet GNOME for ages

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Luis Villa
On 9/12/07, Tristan Van Berkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That way you get democracy at both ends - posting and viewing. GNOME is not democratic. :-) Well, gnome is people that have a choice to contribute or not - making those people (i.e. you me and everyone else) feel accepted and

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Julien PUYDT
Tristan Van Berkom a écrit : I think its important to note here that giving someone access to blog on planet gnome is like publicly aknowlaging that they are indeed a part of the gnome community - people who contribute to the project need to feel like they are part of the project. Agreed. And

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Tristan Van Berkom *sigh*, I wonder what you are basing this claim on, maybe there's an archived thread that you could reffer us to which details that ? Unfortunately my blog didn't have comments at the time, so most of the responses to this were on IRC or by mail. It's mentioned

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Julien PUYDT wrote: Tristan Van Berkom a écrit : I think its important to note here that giving someone access to blog on planet gnome is like publicly aknowlaging that they are indeed a part of the gnome community - people who contribute to the project need to feel like they are part

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 19:11 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: At what point do we recognise that editorial control is necessary for the planet to remain a useful resource? OK. But please, could someone tell us what's this Editorial Control all about? How does this Editorial Control balances with the

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 9/12/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just not going to get caught up in all this alarmism about censorship. I can't imagine why anyone would think I could get away with actual censorship of Planet... it would be laughable if it wasn't so mean spirited. It is not true, but it is

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Pascal Terjan
On 9/12/07, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not true, but it is not laughable. I don't for a second doubt that you do not censor planet.gnome.org. But many months ago I emailed you and asked to get my blog syndicated. I never got any reply and left it as that because I didn't

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 17:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: [...] Planet GNOME without a strong editorial control would probably suck. Just like maintainers vouch and check patches in each of their modules, we need to have some control on blogs getting added to planet. And that's Jeff's module...

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Frécinaux
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 04:00 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: [...] It's also related to *why* people want to be on Planet GNOME -- for instance, it sucks that some people make blogs solely to be published on Planet GNOME. Curiously, why does that suck ? Not everybody likes to make a hobby

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 12:21 -0400, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: Well, gnome is people that have a choice to contribute or not - making those people (i.e. you me and everyone else) feel accepted and important is central to having a healthy project where everyone wants to be involved. But if

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Steve Frécinaux I'd even go one step further saying than most people care about gnome and gnome apps, and not about one's cats and the other's culinar niceties. Because despite Gnome is people, I think that for most people, Planet Gnome is primarily about Gnome. Well, that's

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero The current editorial control is simply more or less if you ever did something peripherally related to GNOME, you can be on Planet, regardless of what you post. It's somewhat more intricate than that -- I'm writing it up atm, so people can understand the

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Pascal Terjan I think that asking people to have tags/categories on their blogs and not aggregate everything would be better than having all the content of the ones who arrived first. Planet GNOME is about the people moreso than the project. We talk about the project *all the time*.

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh That's why full feeds are preferred over GNOME-specific tags Minor point: I do mean 'preferred'. If someone has a good reason for wanting only their GNOME-related posts on Planet I'm cool with that, but I always go back to ask before putting them up. So no knicker-twisting,

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-12 Thread Germán Poó Caamaño
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 18:02 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 09:13 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Federico Mena Quintero We have no editorial control. Get over it :) We absolutely *do* have editorial control at the moment. The challenge I have at the