Re: A few observations about GIMPNET
I see many people have expressed their consensus in this, thus I'll defer the decision to the Board. Thanks to anyone sending a mail about this concern. cheers, Andrea 2012/10/4 Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org: I've been a long time GIMPNET user and tried to propose multiple ideas without success and without receiving a good rationale about why things couldn't change. I've seen many people using home-hosted bots to administer channels, I've seen people having to join #opers multiple times to request an OP status or a simple channel update and I feel it's time to find a solution. What's currently missing on the GIMPNET network: - services. (there's no nickserv, chanserv at all) - TOR is banned. (there is no way to hide your hostmask if you run your IRC client from your home connection) - SSL is not enabled, so all conversations happen in plain text. (even private ones, yeah) - even having a bot administering a channel, setting up its access list is hard with a dynamic IP and DNS. (you can use a wildcard, true, but that will result in someone spoofing your identity if he just wants to) So, the question is, should we migrate away to another network? (like Freenode) or is there a way for GIMPNET to improve its services? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Google Code-In 2012?
Google will run Google Code-In (GCI) again this year (see [1] below if you don't know what that is). Is the GNOME community interested in participating? Would you (developer, translator, doc writer, designer) be a mentor and provide tasks? (Asking as I faced reluctance in the past, because time spent mentoring students took often longer than if GNOMErs did the task themselves, plus students often didn't stick with the mentoring org afterwards.) In case there is enough interest: Is anybody else in to help organizing this for GNOME? Asking as I won't have much time this year. Comments? andre [1] Code-In is for 13-17 year old students. Tasks take 3 to 5 days. Nov 05th is the deadline for orgs to apply. The contest runs from Nov 26th to Jan 16th. Tasks can be about Code, Documentation, Outreach/Research/Marketing/Community Management, QA and UX. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-high-school.html -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: A few observations about GIMPNET
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 14:25 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 09:21 -0400, Allan Day wrote: It would be great to be able to run something like Bip [1] for GNOME IRC. Note, it's of course NOT OK to publish public logs of IRC channels (or any other discussion forum) unless ALL the participants understand that this will happen and agree to it. If people enter an IRC channel they likely understand that it's a public place, as other people are also around in that IRC channel. Mailing lists archive all postings and make them available for public, bugtracker comments are also visible for everybody. I think we state this piece of information when people subscribe/get an account. What makes IRC different so that it's not ok to have public logs? Which actions fulfil the need to make all participants understand that logging happens? An URL to the IRC log in the channel summary? Perhaps in the subject line ? I don't know... if you visit a logged channel you probably know it... a good example is temporary channels opened for the purpose of meetings. Asking as I haven't seen a good argument yet against logging IRC conversations. I think it's nice that we still have places we can feel more or less relaxed about horsing around and taking it easy. IRC is still a nice place where you can be yourself, again more-or-less at least (remember, GNOME irc is not strictly filled with professionals, companies may come and go, but GNOME remains because of the people who contribute in the long run, at least that's what I think...). If #gnome-hackers was publicly logged, I'd probably have to consider wearing a tie before entering the channel, and my conversation would probably get much more formal... I might even be at risk of spelling everything properly. Let's do protect these remaining niceties which we have left. /me cracks open a beer in #gnome-hackers and kicks his feet up on the table Cheers, -Tristan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: A few observations about GIMPNET
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 14:25 -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 09:21 -0400, Allan Day wrote: It would be great to be able to run something like Bip [1] for GNOME IRC. Note, it's of course NOT OK to publish public logs of IRC channels (or any other discussion forum) unless ALL the participants understand that this will happen and agree to it. If people enter an IRC channel they likely understand that it's a public place, as other people are also around in that IRC channel. Mailing lists archive all postings and make them available for public, bugtracker comments are also visible for everybody. I think we state this piece of information when people subscribe/get an account. What makes IRC different so that it's not ok to have public logs? Which actions fulfil the need to make all participants understand that logging happens? An URL to the IRC log in the channel summary? Asking as I haven't seen a good argument yet against logging IRC conversations. FWIW, Sugar Labs has an always logged channel called #sugar-meeting on freenode The topic reads as follows: The meeting channel for the Sugar learning platform | Meeting logs at http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings | See also #sugar | THIS CHANNEL IS ALWAYS LOGGED Prior to that we had a meeting bot that could be turned on and off as needed for logging. The action of a channel op activating the bot is fairly explicit to anyone in the channel at the time of activation. cjl ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Google Code-In 2012?
Sv, 2012-10-14 16:49 +0200, Andre Klapper rakstīja: Would you (developer, translator, doc writer, designer) be a mentor and provide tasks? I got the impression, that there will be no translation tasks this year. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Google Code-In 2012?
On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 18:48 +0300, Rūdolfs Mazurs wrote: Sv, 2012-10-14 16:49 +0200, Andre Klapper rakstīja: Would you (developer, translator, doc writer, designer) be a mentor and provide tasks? I got the impression, that there will be no translation tasks this year. Thanks for the heads-up, you are totally right. That's a pity. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
GNOME Quarterly Reports
Hi, we have quarterly activity reports for GNOME. Last version for April-June 2012 can be seen at https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2012/Q2 . Once the wikipage is completed, Andreas turns this into a nice PDF file. As feedback is often slow (needs several times of nagging) I'd like to know if quarterly reports are still supported and wanted by the community, or if we should think of a better format (e.g. merging with news or journal activities). Dave shared his thoughts here: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-July/msg0.html Comments? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
