Re: GNOME and the free software movement

2006-11-26 Thread dodji Seketeli
Hello, What freedoms exactly? The computer users I know can't code. What are they going to with the source code they have the freedom to modify? I beg to respectfully (though strongly) disagree with you here. If my mom in Togo cannot modify the source code herself, she can ask one of her

Re: GNOME and the free software movement

2006-11-26 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sáb, 2006-11-25 às 22:51 +, Joachim Noreiko escreveu: Freedoms that you can't exercise are meaningless. This doesn't stand to reality: I'm not a journalist, yet freedom of press is not meaningless! Freedom for you to study and adapt the code doesn't mean you have to do it your self,

Re: GNOME and the free software movement

2006-11-26 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
Joachim Noreiko wrote: for the advance of computer users' freedom. What freedoms exactly? The computer users I know can't code. What are they going to with the source code they have the freedom to modify? And free as in beer makes no difference to them: they either got their Windows XP

Re: Questions for the candidates - let's start the discussion(s)

2006-11-26 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 17:00 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: I notice that most recent minutes on the website are December 2005. Do you want to fix that and ask me again? ;) Could the board just ask the foundation's administration assistant to keep that list of meeting minutes updated, please?

Re: Concerns about the election process

2006-11-26 Thread Gabriel Burt
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 21:40 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: As a voter, how do I know that my token isn't just a deterministic hash of my choices? The people running the election could then easily just publish my choices along with this token once for every person who chose the same way that I did.

Re: Extending voting period due to renewals

2006-11-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Baris Cicek wrote: Dear Foundation Members; We've taken couple of complaints about some members did not get their ballots because their membership is not valid. Reason behind this is they did not get renewal notices from membership committee. Even though we have

Re: Extending voting period due to renewals

2006-11-26 Thread Alan
Perhaps someone who has been involved since the earliest days of the foundation could explain the reason behind the requirement for frequent membership renewal? (Maybe it isn't as frequent as I feel it is. Time flies.) The original (and I feel far more sensible) proposal was that people who

Re: Concerns about the election process

2006-11-26 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 17:30 -0500, Gabriel Burt wrote: On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 21:40 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: As a voter, how do I know that my token isn't just a deterministic hash of my choices? The people running the election could then easily just publish my choices along with this

Re: Concerns about the election process

2006-11-26 Thread Gabriel Burt
On 11/26/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What he's saying is that, suppose you voted for me, Quim, Federico, Dave, Bastien, Luis, and Jeff, and were given the anonymous token 0bhnyOzwLJ05jYV2phjusfe0jBYO3HZf. How do you make sure that no one else who voted for the same seven

Re: Extending voting period due to renewals

2006-11-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Alan wrote: Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:31:03 + From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: foundation-list foundation-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Extending voting period due to renewals Perhaps someone who has been involved since the

Re: Concerns about the election process

2006-11-26 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 20:18 -0600, Gabriel Burt wrote: On 11/26/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What he's saying is that, suppose you voted for me, Quim, Federico, Dave, Bastien, Luis, and Jeff, and were given the anonymous token 0bhnyOzwLJ05jYV2phjusfe0jBYO3HZf. How do you

Re: Concerns about the election process

2006-11-26 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:22:47AM -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 20:18 -0600, Gabriel Burt wrote: On 11/26/06, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What he's saying is that, suppose you voted for me, Quim, Federico, Dave, Bastien, Luis, and Jeff, and were given

Re: Questions for the candidates - let's start the discussion(s)

2006-11-26 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 12:53 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: [1] What are your plans to answer the question put forward at the last GUADEC about Why should one become a member of the GNOME Foundation ? I think the current offerings: being able to vote for elections and to get a @gnome.org