Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andy Tai It still looks strange to have the voting body to vote to extend the term of the current board, not the same as a general election. Extending the terms of some leadership tend to happen under situations where something prevents the holding of regular elections... nothing

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andy Tai OK, simply, the stated reason for the extraordinary measure (face to face meeting timing) is not a strong one to justify touching the term limit of the board. In that case -- let's try for productive input here, if possible -- how do you suggest we solve the problem? (Or

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:44 -0700, Andy Tai wrote: It's like extending George Bush's term by two years... a rather drastic thing to do... That's an unfair comparison (despite your disclaimer). If you or anyone has concrete reasons for the current board not to extend its period, We'd like to

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2007-08-10 Thread Julien PUYDT
Sigh... this mail was sent more than twelve hours ago but didn't make it... from now on I'll be using a more direct email address. Message original Sujet: Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:53:34 +0200 De: Julien PUYDT [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Quim Gil 1. Make sure that from a legal point of view we can have board mandate not coinciding with budget terms. If legally we can't do it the rest is pointless. I've put it to our legal folks and am waiting for a response. 2. Check if the current board members would be willing

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 10 août 2007, à 22:11 +1000, Jeff Waugh a écrit : We can call a vote with minimum ten days notice (but we'll have to work with the membership committee to ensure the infrastructure exists to run it). Sorry, I'm going to dive into boring details... Is this something from the by-laws

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Julien PUYDT
Andy Tai a écrit : It still looks strange to have the voting body to vote to extend the term of the current board, not the same as a general election. Extending the terms of some leadership tend to happen under situations where something prevents the holding of regular elections... nothing

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Andy Tai
OK, simply, the stated reason for the extraordinary measure (face to face meeting timing) is not a strong one to justify touching the term limit of the board. On 8/9/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The proposal is about doing something out of the ordinary processes defined by the

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Andy Tai
OK, simply, the stated reason for the extraordinary measure (face to face meeting timing) is not a strong one to justify touching the term limit of the board. On 8/9/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The proposal is about doing something out of the ordinary processes defined by the

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Andy Tai
Something like GnomeMeeting (now with a newer name) can be utilized to have faces seeing faces... There was some talk of a GNOME conference in East Asia. Maybe it would be a good idea to have an annual event there in China, or Japan, or Korea, in early Spring... On 8/10/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
The current board was elected for one year and there is no exceptional reason to change this. The next board can be elected for an extended period and then voters and electors know what is going on beforehand. On 8/10/07, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Andy Tai OK, simply, the

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Quim Gil The current board was elected for one year and there is no exceptional reason to change this. The next board can be elected for an extended period and then voters and electors know what is going on beforehand. We could do that, and it has been discussed in the past, but it

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 10 août 2007, à 22:11 +1000, Jeff Waugh a écrit : quote who=Quim Gil The current board was elected for one year and there is no exceptional reason to change this. The next board can be elected for an extended period and then voters and electors know what is going on

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Vincent Untz Sorry, I'm going to dive into boring details... Is this something from the by-laws (I couldn't find a reference to the 10 days notice there, but I only gave a quick look), or something you are suggesting? Yes. See under VII: 3-8. And by vote, do you mean referendum

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Quim Gil
First things first: 1. Make sure that from a legal point of view we can have board mandate not coinciding with budget terms. If legally we can't do it the rest is pointless. 2. Check if the current board members would be willing to continue for an extended period. If the current board members

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Vincent Untz Forgot to reply to this: one worry (which is valid, IMHO) is that we don't know if all current board members will have time for the first six months of 2008. I know I have absolutely no idea right now if I'll be able to continue. Agree, though directors can resign, and

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh So really, if we do a referendum, we have two questions: + Do you want to shift the election cycle? + Do you want to extend the current mandate of the board? I don't think we should mix them. Two questions can be the kiss of death for a 'referendum'. :-)

Re: Proposal: Shift election cycle back six months

2007-08-10 Thread Julien PUYDT
Andy Tai a écrit : Something like GnomeMeeting (now with a newer name) can be utilized to have faces seeing faces... The new name is ekiga, and it's indeed a gnome project -- I'm working on it at this very moment! Snark ___ foundation-list mailing