Re: no confirmation received
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 18:51 +0300, Zeeshan Ali wrote: Hello Behdad! On 8/1/07, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your contribution. Friends-of-GNOME payments are all processed by our part-time administrator. Please give her a few days. How exactly part-time is this part-time admin? It's been a month now and benefits mentioned on friends webpage[1] aside, i haven't even received a confirmation. I hate to whine about a 50 bucks but a month is a long time. Sorry about it. I've talked to our administrator to improve this situation. In the mean time, your package (plus every else's pending) will be sent out tomorrow or early next week. [1] http://www.gnome.org/friends/ -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: no confirmation received
Hey! Sorry about it. I've talked to our administrator to improve this situation. In the mean time, your package (plus every else's pending) will be sent out tomorrow or early next week. No problem, now that something is being done about it. Thanks. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Can we improve things?
Hello, As a long time contributor to the GNOME project, I will take the freedom to directly mail the foundation about the current problems I experience in the GNOME community. You probably know that I started contributing to GNOME in my spare time back in 2000. I have dedicated countless hours to my project, GnomeMeeting, now known as Ekiga. It means 7 years of development, exclusively done during evenings, nights and week-ends. Ekiga was the first videoconferencing application available for the Linux desktop, and it is nowadays still one of the best Open Source SIP softphones. I have always believed in GNOME and in its community, that is the only way that can motivate you coding that much and that long. However, I am more and more disappointed by the way some people *control* that community, even if they never contributed anything back to it. When I think to Matthias, I am getting mad. Matthias requested an SVN account several months ago, and never got one. When he went on IRC to ask for the account activation, people replied to him that he had to make a new request and wait. One month later, the account is not active yet. Matthias has been contributing thousands of lines of code to Ekiga since several months, and I still need to commit his patches myself. This is inadmissible. When I think to Julien, I am also getting mad. He has been contributing to Ekiga for 5 years. He recently created a blog and asked to Jeff to be added on planet.gnome.org. He was first ignored, then Jeff told him that he had to post often to be added. One day later, another guy was added to planet.gnome.org with 3 posts having been done in a 6 months period. That is what I call dictatorship and boycott of my project. This kind of behavior makes me more and more disappointed about the way things are being handled in GNOME and I am about to move my whole stuff to sourceforge.net and go on my own way. By the way, I do not want this thread to degenerate into a flamewar, that is the reason why I will not answer any mail related to the thread I created. I do not want either to offend the 99% of people who are doing a great job, I sincerely thank them for their work (you know who you are). I just wanted to express my opinion, in the hope that something can be done to improve the situation. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Can we improve things?
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:19:49PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: You probably know that I started contributing to GNOME in my spare time back in 2000. I have dedicated countless hours to my project, GnomeMeeting, now known as Ekiga. It means 7 years of development, exclusively done during evenings, nights and week-ends. Ekiga was the first videoconferencing application available for the Linux desktop, and it is nowadays still one of the best Open Source SIP softphones. I appreciate you and every GNOME dev/translator/triager/contributor. However, I am more and more disappointed by the way some people *control* that community, even if they never contributed anything back to it. As someone who can create SVN accounts (due to being a sysadmin.. I never intended to setup SVN accounts.. only started due to a backlog): It is not about controlling/ denying. It is regarding the stupid setup we have that is the SVN creation process and lack of people helping (partly my fault.. still have to grant someone those abilities). This should improve with the new account system that is still being worked on. It'll provide transparency, etc. I hope it will be live in 1 month. When I think to Matthias, I am getting mad. Matthias requested an SVN account several months ago, and never got one. When he went on IRC to ask for the account activation, people replied to him that he had to make a new request and wait. One month later, the Ping more often. I hate the current process so much that I'd rather drive a nail through my head than to actively setup SVN accounts. I've had it after doing it for a few months. Either I can spend time on the backlog that is always there, or fix the problem. I've resorted to fixing the problem. Regarding the requested SVN account.. I have no qualms regarding tricking others to do the nasty bits. account is not active yet. Matthias has been contributing thousands of lines of code to Ekiga since several months, and I still need to commit his patches myself. This is inadmissible. When I think to Julien, I am also getting mad. He has been contributing to Ekiga for 5 years. He recently created a blog and asked to Jeff to be added on planet.gnome.org. He was first My comments are solely regarding account creation. IMO we should use Bugzilla for to log p.g.o requests. I just wanted to express my opinion, in the hope that something can be done to improve the situation. I hope it'll be solved with the new accounts system. Sorry.. short answer as I am very tired and need to sleep soon. -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Can we improve things?
Hi Damien, The problems you raise are real, and not unknown to the community and the foundation board at all. However, I'm not sure who you have in mind when you say am more and more disappointed by the way some people *control* that community, even if they never contributed anything back to it. The problem in short is, we don't have enough people working on our infrastructure. Both this and the planet issue are currently being discussed in the board. That doesn't keep others from suggesting possible resolutions here or to the board-list. Regards, behdad On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 23:19 +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: Hello, As a long time contributor to the GNOME project, I will take the freedom to directly mail the foundation about the current problems I experience in the GNOME community. You probably know that I started contributing to GNOME in my spare time back in 2000. I have dedicated countless hours to my project, GnomeMeeting, now known as Ekiga. It means 7 years of development, exclusively done during evenings, nights and week-ends. Ekiga was the first videoconferencing application available for the Linux desktop, and it is nowadays still one of the best Open Source SIP softphones. I have always believed in GNOME and in its community, that is the only way that can motivate you coding that much and that long. However, I am more and more disappointed by the way some people *control* that community, even if they never contributed anything back to it. When I think to Matthias, I am getting mad. Matthias requested an SVN account several months ago, and never got one. When he went on IRC to ask for the account activation, people replied to him that he had to make a new request and wait. One month later, the account is not active yet. Matthias has been contributing thousands of lines of code to Ekiga since several months, and I still need to commit his patches myself. This is inadmissible. When I think to Julien, I am also getting mad. He has been contributing to Ekiga for 5 years. He recently created a blog and asked to Jeff to be added on planet.gnome.org. He was first ignored, then Jeff told him that he had to post often to be added. One day later, another guy was added to planet.gnome.org with 3 posts having been done in a 6 months period. That is what I call dictatorship and boycott of my project. This kind of behavior makes me more and more disappointed about the way things are being handled in GNOME and I am about to move my whole stuff to sourceforge.net and go on my own way. By the way, I do not want this thread to degenerate into a flamewar, that is the reason why I will not answer any mail related to the thread I created. I do not want either to offend the 99% of people who are doing a great job, I sincerely thank them for their work (you know who you are). I just wanted to express my opinion, in the hope that something can be done to improve the situation. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
