Re: Windows-only software in government

2008-03-04 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Liam R E Quin wrote:
 Some arguments that go down well are
 * the need to archive
 * the need for accessibility
 * the need to repurpose information (e.g. print, Web, search...)
 * the need to control costs
 * the need to have control over core technology, to use trusted software
 * the need to encourage and support the Canadian IT industry

Thanks, that's really useful. I've added it to 
http://live.gnome.org/Government.

I'm trying to build up a base of useful arguments before firing off 
letters to ministers and members of parliament...


- Mike
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Re: Windows-only software in government

2008-03-04 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Richard Stallman wrote:
 Is the question really Why the government should not require the
 public to be a Microsoft customer in order to deal with their
 government?  Presenting it that way would make a stronger point.


Yes, thank you, that is better! I've updated the wiki.

- Mike

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A word of thanks

2008-03-04 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Have been meaning to do this for a while. This is just a word of thanks
to the Foundation Board for approving a tidy amount that came handy for
swag in India. Right through foss.in to a smaller set of events in
February (GNUnify, FOSSKriti, freed.in) had GNOME supporters. FOSSKriti
was a bit of a success for the Beagle hackfest as well.

Might be [OT] for this list, but thought that it is always good to share
good news.

~sankarshan

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Re: A word of thanks

2008-03-04 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 20:19 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:

 Have been meaning to do this for a while. This is just a word of thanks
 to the Foundation Board for approving a tidy amount that came handy for
 swag in India. Right through foss.in to a smaller set of events in
 February (GNUnify, FOSSKriti, freed.in) had GNOME supporters. FOSSKriti
 was a bit of a success for the Beagle hackfest as well.
 
 Might be [OT] for this list, but thought that it is always good to share
 good news.
 
 ~sankarshan

That's great news Sankarshan, thanks for sharing.  Glad we could help.
Always good to see people represent GNOME Foundation in local events.

Cheers,

behdad

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GNOME @ Google Summer of Code 2008

2008-03-04 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hi all,

As you probably know, Google is organizing one more edition of their
Summer of Code (GSoC) program. More information about the program can
be found here:

  http://code.google.com/soc/2008/

GNOME has participated in all GSoC editions as a mentoring
organization with some nice results in terms of contributions and new
contributors. So, we want to participate this year too!

Our first organization kickoff meeting will happen on March 6 at 18h
UTC in the #soc-admin channel (irc.gnome.org). We're looking for
volunteers to help us to organize GNOME's participation in GSoC 2008.
So, if you want to help in any way, join us!

Cheers!

--lucasr
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GNOME Foundation and Mozilla Foundation join forces

2008-03-04 Thread Vincent Untz
GNOME Foundation and Mozilla Foundation join forces
===

The GNOME Foundation and the Mozilla Foundation announced today that
they will increase their collaboration to improve developer support and
user experience of desktop applications on GNU/Linux and other free
software systems.

The partnership has three aspects:

  * The Mozilla Foundation will join the GNOME Foundation advisory
board, helping set the long-term direction of the project.
  * Mozilla reaffirms its commitment to integrating with the GNOME
platform for the XUL development platform, and for Mozilla Firefox.
  * The Mozilla Foundation announces a grant of $10,000 to the GNOME
Foundation, to be spent on the improvement of the accessibility of
the GNOME desktop environment via the GNOME Outreach Program:
Accessibility program.

GNOME and GTK+ have been our environment of choice for years. As we
move from desktops into the mobile market, we will continue to work with
GNOME to ensure that Mozilla and Firefox users on GNOME platforms will
have the best experience possible, according to Mozilla evangelist
Chris Blizzard.

Mozilla and GNOME people have been collaborating for nearly a decade.
Together we've been able to make contributions to the foundation of each
other's platform - from GTK+ to Cairo to browser desktop integration,
says GNOME Foundation Director Vincent Untz. But the real story is
about two organizations sharing many common values including our shared
commitment to innovation and bringing freedom to our user base.

Both projects actively support open standards and formats. Mozilla
contributes to the W3C HTML5 working group and WHATWG working group, in
order to ensure an open web platform for all future Internet users.
GNOME is a member of the ODF Alliance and works with other desktop
projects under the freedesktop.org umbrella to offer the best user
experience to desktop users. These involvements aim to create space for
innovation and to give freedom to the user.

Read the full announcement at:
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2008-03-mofojoins.html

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Re: GNOME Foundation and Mozilla Foundation join forces

2008-03-04 Thread Thomas Thurman
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:13:38PM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
   * Mozilla reaffirms its commitment to integrating with the GNOME
 platform for the XUL development platform, and for Mozilla Firefox.

a) This sounds nifty.

b) What will this mean for Ephy?

peace

T

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Re: GNOME Foundation and Mozilla Foundation join forces

2008-03-04 Thread Dave Neary

Hi,

Thomas Thurman wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:13:38PM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
   * Mozilla reaffirms its commitment to integrating with the GNOME
 platform for the XUL development platform, and for Mozilla Firefox.
 
 a) This sounds nifty.
 
 b) What will this mean for Ephy?

Epiphany is part of the GNOME desktop, I don't see that changing.

There may come a day when Epiphany's reason for being (a web browser
well integrated into GNOME) with go away, and Firefox will naturally be
the default on all distros. That day may never arrive.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: GNOME Foundation and Mozilla Foundation join forces

2008-03-04 Thread Og Maciel
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There may come a day when Epiphany's reason for being (a web browser
  well integrated into GNOME) with go away, and Firefox will naturally be
  the default on all distros. That day may never arrive.

/me cries a bit.
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Re: Windows-only software in government

2008-03-04 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan

Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So if
 you want a research grant from the European Union, you're forced to be
 using Windows...

More precisely, you're forced to use Windows plus the EC's proprietary
editor -or- GNU/Linux plus VMware plus the EC's proprietary editor.

Source:
ftp://ftp.cordis.europa.eu/pub/fp7/ict/docs/participating/gpf-editor-faq-revised_en.pdf

   5. Does the GPF editor run also on Mac or Linux operated PCs?

   For the moment, the GPF editor is only available for Windows operated
   PCs. Until a Linux and Mac version is released, it has been reported that
   the GPF editor works on Mac with the virtual PC, and on Linux with the
   VMWare solution.

 We need to organize a campaign to change this.  I wonder if Neelie Kroes
 could help.

FWIW, FSFE will co-announce a similar campaign on Thursday, but it's for the
European Parliament, not the European Commission (which is in charge of the
FP7 funding).

If this campaign is successful, it should be easier to do something similar
for the European Commission.

We decided to focus on the parliament because a good opportunity presented
itself.

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