Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Stallman
I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel.  There are people who have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO. I wonder whether these products are free software. If not, they certainly

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread sankarshan
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:     I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel.  There are people who     have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any     Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO. I wonder

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le 08/12/2009 16:08, sankarshan a écrit : 2009/12/8 Pierre-Luc Beaudoinpierre-...@pierlux.com: On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 03:23 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: But I find it interesting to know, say, what Miguel is up to these days. I don't think it's just me... I don't believe Frederic was

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 08:19 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: I don't believe Frederic was pointing at Miguel. There are people who have left the Gnome community working on products that don't use any Gnome technology posting blog post/ads for said product on PGO. I wonder whether

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 14:27 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: So, let's start (this is list done quickly by me and I haven't contacted anybody from it), as basis: - Robert Love - Christopher Blizzard - Miguel De Icaza - Nat Friedman - Daniel Veillard - Edd Dumbill - Glynn Foster - James

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Lionel Dricot
I don't agree at all with the current direction of the discussion. For me, pgo is about people. Yes, I'm interested to learn that Nat will soon get married. Yes, I'm interested to hear about Mandriva on Frédéric's posts because I don't use it at all but at least I keep an eye on it thanks to his

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 14:07 +, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: about their work and appear on Planet GNOME. There's nothing wrong with that. Same goes for Nokia and many other companies involved. I wonder if there's a misunderstanding here. No one said that companies shouldn't be allowed to

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 12/09/2009 09:07 AM, Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: about their work and appear on Planet GNOME. There's nothing wrong with that. Same goes for Nokia and many other companies involved. I wonder if there's a misunderstanding here. No one said that companies shouldn't be allowed to post. Richard

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 12/09/2009 08:48 AM, Lionel Dricot wrote: I don't agree at all with the current direction of the discussion. For me, pgo is about people. Yes, I'm interested to learn that Nat will soon get married. Yes, I'm interested to hear about Mandriva on Frédéric's posts because I don't use it at all

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Le mer. 09 déc. 2009 à 14:45:55 (+0100), Philip Van Hoof a écrit: This is nonsense. The planet-gnome slogan is: Planet GNOME is __ a window into the world, work and lives __ of GNOME hackers and contributors. This is what made the planet a successful project, initiated by Jeff Waugh (who

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Dan Winship
On 12/09/2009 01:47 PM, Dodji Seketeli wrote: The way I understand what Frédéric said is, there is an (yet another one?) interesting question not answered by the p.g.o slogan. What does the planet maintainers do with people who stop being involved in the project. Sometimes people who are not

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2009-12-09 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48:45PM +, Lucas Rocha wrote: Before deciding on this, we thought it would be useful to get some feedback from the community. Seems thread is becoming 1) heated 2) repeating So, see subject. -- Regards, Olav ___

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:32 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 12/09/2009 08:48 AM, Lionel Dricot wrote: I know some planets that choose to have a code of conduct about what should be posted or not (like planet Ubuntu-f or planet-libre.org). They all ended by not selecting the people on a

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Stallman
Is it possible to provide filters so that people who are interested in different types of blog entries can focus on what is interesting to them? This could be a useful feature for many reasons, but it doesn't address the issue of articles that grant legitimacy to non-free software.

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Stallman
The people who work at VmWare also very often posted (and still post) about their work and appear on Planet GNOME. They should not do this, unless VmWare becomes free software. GNOME should not provide proprietary software developers with a platform to present non-free software as a good

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-09 Thread Richard Stallman
Richard said that Planet GNOME shouldn't be used to promote non-free software (i.e. software that denies freedom by witholding source code or witholding permission to use/modify/distribute). But mono *is* Free Software according to the FSF definition! Yes, it is. There's