Re: Stormy's Update: Week of December 7th

2009-12-17 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:08 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote: That said, the discussion started because of Clutter and its copyright assignment and the fact that that is blocking it's inclusion in GNOME 2.28. I'm not a lawyer, so I'm very ready for someone to just tell me that I'm wrong, but:

Re: Stormy's Update: Week of December 7th

2009-12-17 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
(Sent via my phone; apologies for the formatting) To clarify: Clutter (currently) comes with a copyright assignment. The copyright waiver has been introduced for small patches attached to Bugzilla to avoid going through the copyright assignment process. The waiver and the assignment are two

Re: Private Foundation-List Petition for referendum

2009-12-17 Thread Richard Stallman
5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups I am being discriminated against because I can not make improvements or discuss where the project is headed. The definition of open source is a criterion for software licenses; I don't think it applies to mailing list usage at all. But I

Re: Private Foundation-List Petition for referendum

2009-12-17 Thread Richard Stallman
To deny a group or a person the legitimacy to keep intellectual property proprietary goes against criteria five of the Open Source Definition: A statement that uses the term intellectual property is tremendously vague, since that refers to many laws at once, and treats them as one single

Re: Stormy's Update: Week of December 7th

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Murray, On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:54 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: My concern is that code without a copyright holder cannot really be under any license. This is a very frequently made point; of course - IANAL. But if you follow this argument to it's logical conclusion this makes all

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-17 Thread guido iodice
Hi to all. I'm not a GNOME Foundation member, then I apologize for this e-mail. But as enthusiastic GNOME user, I would like to send you my opinion. First at all: thank you Richard Stallman and Miguel De Icaza for GNOME idea. Thank you Miguel for GNOME hacking and for Mono too. Thank you RMS for