Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 5, 2010
El dj 26 de 08 de 2010 a les 12:30 +0200, en/na Dave Neary va escriure: > Hi, > > Brian Cameron wrote: > > * GUADEC > > o The board will create a Wiki page with tips to better > > manage GUADEC/event planning in the future. The Wiki will > > start as a private Wiki page and will be made more public > > when it is fleshed out. > > I just wanted to point out that this would be at least the 3rd such > effort at documenting GUADEC planning - separate checklists have been > created during & after Villanova & Gran Canaria previously. > > I would prefer to make existing resources more useful, rather than > starting from scratch (again). > > Please see > > http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo > http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo/CheckList > http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/GranCanariaDesktopSummit > http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2010/Planning > > > Also, guadec-planning archives should have lots of useful advice. > > The major difficulty with GUADEC has always been having a very clear > idea of who is doing a given task early enough, and having someone to > answer questions like "how many X should we buy?" or "How many rooms do > we need?" and getting things like events organised sufficiently early so > that we're not rushing at the mast minute. > > Cheers, > Dave. +1 here (obviously) Having a new website each time is also that doesn't help at all to allow documenting things (even if we have l.g.o). Cheers, -- gil forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - July 25, 2010
Hi, Bastien Nocera wrote: > This is what we've been told by the people we talked to. MeeGo 1.0 for > handsets uses a new compositor, with a new set of hints. Those are not > compatible with existing desktop implementations. > > Trying to use a stock GTK+ or Qt application on MeeGo 1.0 for handsets > will result in a black screen. > > Do you have any other information that contradicts that? After looking into it, I've been told that this is a bug in mcompositor, rather than a design issue: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2953 >>> o The board is considering funding making Maemo 6 integrate >>> more nicely with GTK+. >> In the context, it seems like the task should be "Ensuring that Maemo 5 >> apps work well with upstream GTK+"? > > The first step would be fixing the compositor and/or adding support for > this new compositor in GTK+ itself. > > The second would be to start porting some of the Maemo 5 GTK+ and Hildon > features to GTK+. Yes, this certainly seems reasonable. But the bug in mcompositor seems sufficiently serious that it will have a high priority in mcompositor also (as mentioned in that bug report). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - August 5, 2010
Hi, Brian Cameron wrote: > * GUADEC > o The board will create a Wiki page with tips to better > manage GUADEC/event planning in the future. The Wiki will > start as a private Wiki page and will be made more public > when it is fleshed out. I just wanted to point out that this would be at least the 3rd such effort at documenting GUADEC planning - separate checklists have been created during & after Villanova & Gran Canaria previously. I would prefer to make existing resources more useful, rather than starting from scratch (again). Please see http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo/CheckList http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/GranCanariaDesktopSummit http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/2010/Planning Also, guadec-planning archives should have lots of useful advice. The major difficulty with GUADEC has always been having a very clear idea of who is doing a given task early enough, and having someone to answer questions like "how many X should we buy?" or "How many rooms do we need?" and getting things like events organised sufficiently early so that we're not rushing at the mast minute. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - July 25, 2010
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:58 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Brian Cameron wrote: > > * GNOME Mobile work funded by Nokia. > > o If Nokia continued with Maemo 5, then we could just port > > GNOME apps and they would likely just work. > > o With Maemo 6 and Moblin neither Qt nor GTK+ apps just work. > > This doesn't sound right... Qt apps and stock GTK+ apps should Just Work > in both Maemo 6 and MeeGo 1.0. The issue, as I understand it, is that > Hildon & "Nokia GTK+" apps developed against Maemo 5 currently have no > migration path to Maemo 6/MeeGo. This is what we've been told by the people we talked to. MeeGo 1.0 for handsets uses a new compositor, with a new set of hints. Those are not compatible with existing desktop implementations. Trying to use a stock GTK+ or Qt application on MeeGo 1.0 for handsets will result in a black screen. Do you have any other information that contradicts that? > > o The board is considering funding making Maemo 6 integrate > > more nicely with GTK+. > > In the context, it seems like the task should be "Ensuring that Maemo 5 > apps work well with upstream GTK+"? The first step would be fixing the compositor and/or adding support for this new compositor in GTK+ itself. The second would be to start porting some of the Maemo 5 GTK+ and Hildon features to GTK+. > > o ACTION: Bastien to discuss technical Nokia plans with > > regards to Meego for Handsets. > > o ACTION: Stormy to send Bastien contact details for Nokia > > Advisory Board. > > Cheers, > Dave. > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - July 25, 2010
Hi, Brian Cameron wrote: > * GNOME Mobile work funded by Nokia. > o If Nokia continued with Maemo 5, then we could just port > GNOME apps and they would likely just work. > o With Maemo 6 and Moblin neither Qt nor GTK+ apps just work. This doesn't sound right... Qt apps and stock GTK+ apps should Just Work in both Maemo 6 and MeeGo 1.0. The issue, as I understand it, is that Hildon & "Nokia GTK+" apps developed against Maemo 5 currently have no migration path to Maemo 6/MeeGo. > o The board is considering funding making Maemo 6 integrate > more nicely with GTK+. In the context, it seems like the task should be "Ensuring that Maemo 5 apps work well with upstream GTK+"? > o ACTION: Bastien to discuss technical Nokia plans with > regards to Meego for Handsets. > o ACTION: Stormy to send Bastien contact details for Nokia > Advisory Board. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list