Re: GUADEC Feedback (we want it!)
On 12 October 2010 06:51, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: [...] Thank you to everyone for the feedback. We've organized and collected it and published it here: http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/Guadec2010Feedback Thanks for helping make future GUADECs better! I see You are not allowed to view this page. when I try to open that URL. Cheers, -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) (arunsr | GNOME) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi! Makes sense to me. And if anyone knows what will and won't make conferences like GUADEC run smoothly, it's _probably_ Gil. I know that we discussed in the first meeting to have a pre-registration the day before and don't start the first day before 12 to allow smooth registration. Don't know if they changed everything back in the second meeting... Johannes ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi Gil, Gil Forcada wrote: So criticism was expected? I understood as a set-in-stone decision :) Feedback was expected... some of this *is* set in stone, but I definitely prefer hearing concerns now, so that we can try to address them. Just from an organizational PoV: having the core days in the first day (aka August 2nd) with the joint conference (so ~1000 attendees) I think it's a terrible idea! This year's GUADEC with the two pre-conference days were wonderful in terms or setting everything up, not just the registration desk per-se, but the network, the signaling, getting all the volunteers around and up to speed ... So in short, one day as registration/pre-conference/hackfest/BoF day it should be a must for all conferences that everyone expects to run smoothly. We won't have access to the venue before 5pm on the Friday (another event preceding us), unfortunately, and for the bigger halls, we can only have them from Friday to Monday - so this part is indeed set in stone. We anticipate getting the network well planned in advance and getting it up running early - we are hopeful that the CCC will help us plan our network infrastructure, and for those of you in the know, you're aware that there could be no better way to ensure everything works well. For welcome desk registration set-up, volunteer co-ordination and other issues you mention, we will definitely have some issues to work around... we plan to gather brief volunteers group leaders on Friday night (both for the set-up to help ensure smooth running during the conference) and Saturday morning before the start of the conference, we are thinking about having someone help with on-site logistics (running on-the-ground operations communications, ensuring that everyone who needs volunteers has them, and ensuring that no volunteers are being overworked). There is one additional complication which will make things fun interesting - the rooms we have for BOFs hacking from Tuesday through Friday are in a different building (literally just across the street) from where the bigger talks will be. So we also need to co-ordinate a tear-down set-up on Monday evening, where we will need a lot of help. You're dead right to raise these concerns. We will of course try to mitigate the effect you mention, and will do as much as possible to ensure that everything is ready for Saturday morning. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi, Johannes Schmid wrote: I know that we discussed in the first meeting to have a pre-registration the day before and don't start the first day before 12 to allow smooth registration. Don't know if they changed everything back in the second meeting... I don't think it makes sense to start the conference at 12 on Saturday. 10, maybe. But we only have 3 days of talks - sacrificing a half day seems a lot. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:30:49AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Gil, Gil Forcada wrote: So criticism was expected? I understood as a set-in-stone decision :) Feedback was expected... some of this *is* set in stone, but I definitely prefer hearing concerns now, so that we can try to address them. 2 points: 1. Conflicts with the schedule for GNOME 3.2 (feature, API, docs are @ Aug 15, UI one week later). Basically the proposed freezes are right after the desktop summit. There is not much that we can do regarding scheduling GNOME as GUADEC has consistently been later and later in the year. We need a shorter release cycle for GNOME 3.2 (release date is proposed for Sep 28), so not sure what can be done. Generally there is almost no development activity during GUADEC. Note that above dates are still not final. 2. Conference start on a Saturday is I think unusual for GUADEC? I thought it always was a weekday. Not sure if everything can be ready in such a short timeframe. -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GUADEC Feedback (we want it!)
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:56:55AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 October 2010 06:51, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: [...] Thank you to everyone for the feedback. We've organized and collected it and published it here: http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/Guadec2010Feedback Thanks for helping make future GUADECs better! I see You are not allowed to view this page. when I try to open that URL. Made it public. (message indicated it should be public + the wiki logs mention the same so assume this is ok) -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi! 1. Conflicts with the schedule for GNOME 3.2 (feature, API, docs are @ Aug 15, UI one week later). Basically the proposed freezes are right after the desktop summit. There is not much that we can do regarding scheduling GNOME as GUADEC has consistently been later and later in the year. We need a shorter release cycle for GNOME 3.2 (release date is proposed for Sep 28), so not sure what can be done. Generally there is almost no development activity during GUADEC. Note that above dates are still not final. Well, the desktop-summit dates were basically depending on the vanue. As the german summer-break starts later than in most other countries the university isn't available at other times. Might be useful to change the release cycle dates a bit if possible. 2. Conference start on a Saturday is I think unusual for GUADEC? I thought it always was a weekday. Not sure if everything can be ready in such a short timeframe. We had a long discussion that basically broke down to the KDE people wanting to start on Saturday and the GNOME people prefering a week-day. There are pros and cons for both so we finally settled on the timetable we have now. It might be better explained in the meeting minutes. Regards, Johannes ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced
Hi, Olav Vitters wrote: 1. Conflicts with the schedule for GNOME 3.2 (feature, API, docs are @ Aug 15, UI one week later). Basically the proposed freezes are right after the desktop summit. There is not much that we can do regarding scheduling GNOME as GUADEC has consistently been later and later in the year. We need a shorter release cycle for GNOME 3.2 (release date is proposed for Sep 28), so not sure what can be done. Generally there is almost no development activity during GUADEC. Note that above dates are still not final. Thanks for the feedback, Olav. Indeed, this is a point I had not considered, and it is an important one. I have forwarded it on to the desktop summit team list for discussion. 2. Conference start on a Saturday is I think unusual for GUADEC? I thought it always was a weekday. Not sure if everything can be ready in such a short timeframe. This is essentially the same format we had in Gran Canaria, and is now confirmed. This was partly the university's availability, and partly a preference of the local team (as Johannes says, this was discussed before I got involved). On getting the venue ready, we have a large motivated local team, and we can get into the venue on Friday night, and from 7am on Saturday morning, so we might be OK, if we are well prepared. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GUADEC Feedback (we want it!)
Oops! Thanks Olav for fixing that. Paul On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:56:55AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 October 2010 06:51, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: [...] Thank you to everyone for the feedback. We've organized and collected it and published it here: http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/Guadec2010Feedback Thanks for helping make future GUADECs better! I see You are not allowed to view this page. when I try to open that URL. Made it public. (message indicated it should be public + the wiki logs mention the same so assume this is ok) -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - September 30, 2010
The meeting minutes for the September 30th GNOME Foundation board meeting is now published. Refer here: http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20100930 Discussed on the mailing list [...] * The board approved providing $4,000 (USD) to cover 7º Forum @ Latinoware (November 10-12) travel expenses. o http://www.latinoware.org/ Oops, that should be: * The board approved providing $4,000 (USD) to cover 7º Forum @ ENSL (November 6-7) travel expenses. * http://ensl.org.br/ Sorry about any confusion. I have updated the Wiki minutes with this change. Brian ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
