Re: How to open Gnome Malaysia Usergroup

2011-01-22 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Hi all,

Thank for replying my email. Sorry for my late reply. I just got accident by
motorcycle. Now i can use my right hand to type email cause my other hand
injured i now on MC for one week. Thank for the information that you all
give you give to me. I`m aware that gnome already have MS translation group
but not aware that Malaysia already have Gnome user because i confuse with
usergroup and sub usergroup. But i will check the FAQ. I will read the
guideline, code of conduct and HOWTO about usergroups.

 http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-my-list --It this was
Malaysia Usergroups or sub usergroup because i dont see it usergroup list.

About the party launching we might be happy to make it also since we already
make launch party Drupal and now to plan make for openSUSE party.

FYI many OSS/FLOSS/FOSS community in Malaysia now in slow mode xtvt cause
many people now have the own personnel commitment, busy with carrier, family
and not have interest to active back. OSDCMY  launch at 2009 by our former
Malaysia Prime Minister to make our community live again. We now
collaboration with all the community and united under one umbrella so we can
move forward as one entity and represent them as one since many community
have internal problem like money, people and management. So we use OSDCMY to
be pilot project as our for OSS/FOSS/FLOSS community in Malaysia. You can
visit all OSS/FOSS,FLOSS mailing list like fedora-my, ubuntu-my,
opensuse-my, joomla-my, drupal-my, kde-my, firefox-my, foss-my and others.

Hi RMS,

Thank for remind me again about Free Software. When you want to come back to
Malaysia after your last attend at FOSS.MY. If your have free time we would
like to invite you to come to our MOSC2011 as our speakers :). We aware
about term OSS, FOSS  FLOSS. We now here because we want make people
interest about Open Source Software neither it a free or free license. We
make may awareness program about OSS because we want Malaysia people like
and love to coding and programming. OSDCMY agenda is to produce and create
programmer, coder  developer. Before we can reach this agenda we need 1st
to make people interest and have intension about OSS project. That why we
make OSS Day and road tour at our public university and give them
information and awareness about OSS use our own pocket money, time
and energy to make it happen. It need a lot of commitment from us to make it
happen sometime some of our member feel like waste their time to promote OSS
in Malaysia and many of them withdraw from OSDCMY but we have other people
not yet lose out the faith and we continue what we done so far with people
that still have spirit. So far we got small sponsor from Redhat Malaysia,
Novell Malaysia and others small company that donor to our project. We also
ask IBM Malaysia, Oracle Malaysia and other Hardware company and MNC but we
can see they not have interest to help us or support us. For them business
is important not community or for FREE. The best part M$ are also donor to
us if we have any events that we manage and their said M$ want help OSDCMY
if others dont want to help. They dont want to know what the money goes or
ask back their just donor. Went we give the report to our top government
agency like MAMPU http://www.mampu.gov.my 
MDEChttp://www.mscmalaysia.mybecause their was higher agency
government that in-charge about ICT movement
in Malaysia they also surprise what the hell M$ doing in OSS community and
why they just donor some money but others ICT company not interest to help
out, Where the hell (Oracle, IBM,HP,Dell  etc) in OSS community why they
not give support and donor to local community that make OSS program that
why i put remark *?*
*
*
You know that without money involvement we cant go anywhere and we will
stuck forever with this level. For make others business community have
interest and get them involve we must make as many events and program about
 OSS and make track record that we are serious and we are also professional
interm organize and manage OSS community. Hope RMS understand a short story
about OSS/FOSS/FLOSS community in Malaysia.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:

 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
 for more explanation of the difference between free software and open
 source.

 --
 Richard Stallman
 President, Free Software Foundation
 51 Franklin St
 Boston MA 02110
 USA
 www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org

 Regards,
Mohd Fazli Azran
Secretariat OSDCMY
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Re: Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011

2011-01-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit :
 So Hackfest registration is happening here:
 http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for
 the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper
 and conference registration will be opening soon.

What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can
go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails,
unless I missed something.

Vincent

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Re: Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011

2011-01-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Jan 22, 2011 12:04 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:

 Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit :
  So Hackfest registration is happening here:
  http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for
  the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper
  and conference registration will be opening soon.

 What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can
 go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails,
 unless I missed something.

Since the dates selected are the span of a work week I cannot go. The
scheduling reprecussions would be too difficult to absorb.

I would be happy to make myself available on Monday and Wednesday evening on
IRC, however.

If enough people can't make it and doing telepresence on a larger scale
makes sense, I would be willing to take a few days off work to make that
more productive. I don't think doing telepresence makes sense if there is a
conference as those who would be remote would likely reduce the conference
productivity as much as aid it due to synchronization overhead.
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Re: How to open Gnome Malaysia Usergroup

2011-01-22 Thread Richard Stallman
Thank for remind me again about Free Software. When you want to come back to
Malaysia after your last attend at FOSS.MY. If your have free time we would
like to invite you to come to our MOSC2011 as our speakers :).

Thank you, but given that the name of that event says open source,
my participation would give people the wrong idea.  I give my support
to events that fly the banner of free software, perangkat lunak
bebas, ziyou ruanjian.

Likewise, a GNOME User Group should advocate free software, not open
source.

I understand that you'd like to get business to contribute money for
activities, and that's fine if you can do it, but _aiming_ for that
does tend to alter the message.  Our message is, You deserve
freedom, and it should not be replaced with Do what business will
support.

-- 
Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org
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Re: Official announcement and invitation to GNOME 3.0 Hackfest and GNOME.Asia Summit 2011

2011-01-22 Thread Frederic Muller

On 01/23/2011 03:06 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:

On Jan 22, 2011 12:04 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org
mailto:vu...@gnome.org wrote:
 
  Le vendredi 21 janvier 2011, à 23:41 +0800, Frederic Muller a écrit :
   So Hackfest registration is happening here:
   http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOME.Asia2011 , call for papers for
   the conference is here http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/CallForPaper
   and conference registration will be opening soon.
 
  What's the plan on the marketing team side? Do we have people who can
  go? I didn't see any replies on marketing-list to the previous mails,
  unless I missed something.

Since the dates selected are the span of a work week I cannot go. The
scheduling reprecussions would be too difficult to absorb.

I would be happy to make myself available on Monday and Wednesday
evening on IRC, however.

If enough people can't make it and doing telepresence on a larger scale
makes sense, I would be willing to take a few days off work to make that
more productive. I don't think doing telepresence makes sense if there
is a conference as those who would be remote would likely reduce the
conference productivity as much as aid it due to synchronization overhead.


What about 3 days only, from March 30th to April 1st?
Fred
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