Re: Candidacy: Andre Klapper

2011-05-23 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi Andre! Plus sometimes I would have prefered to see more transparency in GNOME with regard to decision making on our sometimes bumpy way to GNOME 3.0 so one task will be to find ways to facilitate. Do you think it would be useful for GNOME to have a policy that things that haven't been

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Lionel Dricot
Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 23:44 -0400, Richard Stallman a écrit : At Lanedo, we have been surprised a few times by people who were thinking that there was no commercial support available for GTK+. It would make good sense for GNOME to have a list of commercial service providers. It

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: Le lundi 23 mai 2011 à 00:14 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : Le dimanche 22 mai 2011, à 23:45 +0200, Lionel Dricot a écrit : It would have been easy to criticize, to say loudly that the board should improve the situation without moving

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 12:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: It is not only about having a page that list the commercial support companies. It's more about a deep collaboration between the foundation and the companies that live from GNOME. I personally

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Cutler
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com wrote: Isn't that part of the problem? If the foundation isn't behind this, won't it seem completely self indulgent on behalf of businesses alone? What I personally would like to see is much more backing from the foundation.

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Allan Day
Hi Ryan, Ryan Lortie wrote: name: Ryan Lortie nick: desrt affiliation: Codethink Limited I am announcing my intention to run as a candidate in the upcoming election for the board of directors. (( me )) I've been around the GNOME project for a bit more than half

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:59 +0100, Allan Day wrote: snip That said, some questions: * Do you have any concrete ideas of what 'strong and coordinated technical leadership' would involve? It sounds very nice and all, but I'd like to hear some specifics before I cast my vote. ;) * If you

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com a écrit: On 23/05/11 12:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: It is not only about having a page that list the commercial support companies. It's more about a deep collaboration between the foundation and the

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 15:28, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Martyn Russellmar...@lanedo.com a écrit: On 23/05/11 12:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: It is not only about having a page that list the commercial support companies. It's more about a deep

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 15:08, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Martyn Russellmar...@lanedo.com a écrit: That's always needed too of course, but when you have potential customers asking who can provide support for projects X, Y and Z, do you really want to be in a position where you have no answer? Oh, you mean

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Ryan Lortie
[removing foundation-announce from the cc:] hi Allan, On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:59 +0100, Allan Day wrote: * Do you have any concrete ideas of what 'strong and coordinated technical leadership' would involve? It sounds very nice and all, but I'd like to hear some specifics before I cast my

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Ryan Lortie
hi Philip, (keeping in mind that creating a technical board is very much an open question) On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 19:48 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: - Will all foundation members get a single vote? That was indeed my intention. I think your other proposals are too difficult to implement and

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 11:00 -0400, Ryan Lortie wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:59 +0100, Allan Day wrote: * Do you have any concrete ideas of what 'strong and coordinated technical leadership' would involve? It sounds very nice and all, but I'd like to hear some specifics before I cast my

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 13:51 -0400, Ryan Lortie wrote: hi Philip, (keeping in mind that creating a technical board is very much an open question) On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 19:48 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: - Will all foundation members get a single vote? That was indeed my intention.

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread john palmieri
I appreciate that we are talking about the technical board as an open question but I fear it could be used as a political tool to override the decision making process that already exists in the meritocracy. By giving a board this power you basically allow people who may not even be active in

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Andy Wingo
Hi Ryan, On Mon 23 May 2011 02:00, Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca writes: For a while the foundation board has largely taken a hands-off approach when it comes to technical decisions. In my opinion this has allowed a number of problems to develop. Can you mention some examples? I believe,

Re: Candidacy: Ryan Lortie

2011-05-23 Thread Andy Wingo
Hi Ryan, Thanks for your answers. They were thoughtful, as you are. On Mon 23 May 2011 22:38, Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca writes: More generally, though, during the last cycle I've heard a lot of talk from many different people about many decisions that seemed to be made in an opaque way.

Re: GNOME booth at LinuxTag 2011 - openSuSE DVDs

2011-05-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 16 mai 2011, à 17:58 +0200, Tobias Mueller a écrit : Also many thanks to openSuSE for their Live DVDs. They were highly appreciated and we could use them very efficiently to attract people and start conversations. If you happen to want a box of DVDs, contact me or Vincent. We'll

Re: Candidacy: Andre Klapper

2011-05-23 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Johannes, On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:30 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Plus sometimes I would have prefered to see more transparency in GNOME with regard to decision making on our sometimes bumpy way to GNOME 3.0 so one task will be to find ways to facilitate. Do you think it would be

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 23 mai 2011, à 15:55 +0100, Martyn Russell a écrit : On 23/05/11 15:08, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Martyn Russellmar...@lanedo.com a écrit: That's always needed too of course, but when you have potential customers asking who can provide support for projects X, Y and Z, do you

Meeting Minutes Published - May 10th, 2011

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Cameron
The meeting minutes for the May 10th GNOME Foundation board meeting is now published. Refer here: http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20110510 Other past board meetings are archived here: http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes -- text of the latest