Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Jim Nelson
...it seems totally reasonable that people might loosely refer to crowdfunding as fundraising in this sort of context. If you were confused, then you only needed to ask for specifics. :D I wasn't confused, and I wasn't speaking about the recent Groupon fundraiser. There's been a few calls

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Magdalen Berns
I wasn't confused, and I wasn't speaking about the recent Groupon fundraiser. There's been a few calls here for free software alternatives to Indiegogo as well as GNOME becoming involved with those alternatives. Many of the proposed alternatives were not crowdfunding and shouldn't be

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Christian Hergert
On 01/06/2015 02:54 PM, Magdalen Berns wrote: The stigma related to bitcoin is just the media doing their thing to try and discredit it, in my humble view. A lot of people do not buy into that stuff. With that said, it is reasonable for anyone to be uncomfortable with something and not be made

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Magdalen Berns
I understand that you can't move the campaign now. But can you post a bitcoin address, and invite people to send money that way if they don't want to run nonfree JS code? I've added a section to the campaign borrowed from crowdsupply. It's great this is resolved. As for bitcoin, I'm

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Stallman
Now, to the subject of whether GNOME should or should not link to non-free websites The expression nonfree website is one we do not use, because it is not clear what that would mean. Web sites raise various kinds of ethical issues. The issue here is very specific: a web site requires

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Second, linking to a web site is not an automatic endorsement of its script

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] 1. In what situations can any published link on GNOME's servers be

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Magdalen Berns
I understood you to be talking about labelling links as non-free even on wiki pages and Planet GNOME. Were you only talking about links to fundraising pages? In physics, problem solving is seen as a case of starting with the most simple model of a given system, stating assumptions to account

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Does crowdsupply accept software projects at all? I will ask them. -- Dr

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Magdalen Berns
First, there's a lot of talk (here and the earlier thread) that loosely equivocates fundraising with crowdfunding. They're not the same. To tell a project that it should simply accept donations rather than use a crowdfunding platform is a false equivocation. Crowdfunding's mixture of

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I hadn't realized others had used indiegogo to crowdfund for your travel

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] The problem is that it takes *months* to prepare a proper crowdfunding