Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
What I took from that is that the freedom to modify your computing environment is only meaningful in the first degree to programmers. And if GNOME continues to bury all the configuration in secret corners without a UI, and even the basic stuff only by an add on (tweak tool) you'll continue to

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
digress). The goal we should be aiming for is freedom for all computer users, and like it or not, the majority of computer uses in the next 5 years will be on phones and tablets. To pretend otherwise and focus on PC-style devices is trying to gain traction in a shrinking market, which

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:33:26 + Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: hi; On 28 November 2012 11:02, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: What I took from that is that the freedom to modify your computing environment is only meaningful in the first degree to programmers

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
Lets be intellectually honest - a command line client editor is *NOT* user-friendly. I don't agree at all with this assessment: it depends entirely on the audience it is targeting. If the goal is freedom then presumably the goal is freedom for all not freedom for the special elite who

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
Your TV allows that: http://prolost.com/blog/2011/3/28/your-new-tv-ruins-movies.html I don't think we want to compare GNOME to TVs with awful UIs. There is nothing awful about the TV UI. Look at the facts. The problem with TV settings is the same as the benchmarketing game in computing - it

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Cox
This is especially true given that there is NO tablet that can run a completely free operating system. Only desktop and laptop machines This is not quite true. The options are very limited and in some cases you cannot use all the hardware (often the 3D acceleration) but there are a few such

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-20 Thread Alan Cox
Actually I think Richard made a really helpful suggestion - a screen built in to the desktop that explains the goals. Can the desktop by default at least have such a document on it for people to read? One place to put it is part of an introductory first run tutorial which also explains things

Re: Looking for community managers or enthusiasts!

2012-11-15 Thread Alan Cox
What has changed since the initial GNOME 3 release and now ? The software rendering in Mesa improved dramatically and also has some limited ability to use GEM to optimise data paths on certain cards. Is gnome-shell now optimized and usable on said, older hardware ? Some of the problem

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Cox
I suspect the most likely sub-domain to be read via Readability is blogs.gnome.org, which would raise the question of whether it's right for the Gnome Foundation to accept the money from people reading Foundation-hosted blog posts. I think it's probably reasonable, but I'm just one person

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Cox
I would be surprised if the Gnome Foundation had legal authority and ownership rights to authorise any redesign of such material as it isn't the rightsholder in question. Well, we are reformating and republishing already. How's that different? Just wondering. People asked to have their

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:22:14 -0500 Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 13:45, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: People asked to have their blogs included on it and placed them on it by choice. It's under CC-NC licensing (*). So they've agreed to NC

Re: proposal to change GNOME's trademark guidelines

2011-07-29 Thread Alan Cox
I'm not the world's foremost expert in trademark law but I am a lawyer and have worked in this area in my tenure at the Software Freedom Law Center. The language that I proposed was reviewed in other contexts by other lawyers at SFLC as well as lawyers at various companies that were involved

Re: proposal to change GNOME's trademark guidelines

2011-07-28 Thread Alan Cox
This section is quite broad, and is only modified by the somewhat vague Fair Use section. Unfortunately, if taken literally, it would prevent The Fair Use section has another problem btw when someone is looking at this. Fair Use has no meaning in most legal systems outside the USA. I'm

Re: Wiki text licensing

2011-03-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:25:17 +0100 Dodji Seketeli do...@seketeli.org wrote: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org a écrit: (I changed the Subject because I recommend that we not describe potentially useful works of software documentation works as content. That term denigrates the works. See

Re: GTK+/MeeGo Handset integration work, call for bids

2010-10-14 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:35:13 -0700 C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP c...@colliertech.org wrote: I'm raising a red flag: W: Failed to fetch http://download.meego.com/live/devel:/tools:/sdk:/host/${distribution}/Sources.gz 404 Not Found Seems to work for me. ${distribution} in the URL looks

Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

2010-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
minorities have not had a large role in free software community. So that joke might have worked with a lot of people back then but not so much now. Since you're a celebrity people are willing to probably overlook such things that might normally offend them. Of course the opposite is true as

Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

2010-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
It would be better if GNOME defined a precise set of rules (ie. don't mention religion). As for the hazy areas, common sense is a better That is hardly a precise rule. I think quite a few people would describe certain posters attitude to the letters G N and U as 'religion'. The social sciences

Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

2010-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
That's completely irrelevant. Do we need to write a list of no bag stealing, no puppy strangling etc.? Sexual assaults are supposed to be dealt with using law enforcement, not speaker guidelines. Assault is - but where for example would you draw the line given a speaker appearing in a

Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Cox
In my opinion you solve latency more by making services capable of pipelining, than by compressing data. And by making clients that make use of the remote service's pipelining capabilities. Thats a bit naïve. They two solve totally different problems and it is dependant upon the behaviour of

Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Cox
sillies :-) Lets not forget some of the low-level sillies found in the kernel and base-syste, recently: software resume processes that synchronously read huge chunks of the swap partition to checksum the disk, single big kernel locks held for all module insertions, Modules is not showing up

Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap

2010-02-28 Thread Alan Cox
A solution that IMHO has much better chances of success is to create a free alternative to facebook. However, who is going to do it and more importantly who is going to pay for this effort? :( You would have the same problem as taking on ebay or replacing the internet. The economic value

Re: Thanks, and a Brief Survey

2010-01-15 Thread Alan Cox
2. not legitimate; not sanctioned by law or custom. I don't see what the fuss is about. Not sanctioned by custom precisely describes Richard Stallman's belief that Free Software as a concept does not include considering proprietary software as acceptable in most cases. Whether that is true of

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-11-25 Thread Alan Cox
1. People speak on their own behalf, not on behalf of GNOME. Unless they ARE talking on behalf of GNOME (say, board, release team, etc), On things like the planet that can be addressed by suitable tags and styling (as could inappropriate content - if there is a 'rant filter' option or

Re: Stormy's update: Week of July 13th

2009-07-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:20:22 +0200 Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 21:43 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: Another problem with trying to find an issue here is that, depending on the point of view, Amazon acted within their own Terms (point iii under

Re: Stormy's update: Week of July 13th

2009-07-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:41:36 -0400 Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: Created some Amazon affiliate accounts in US, UK, Canada and Germany so tha= t Jaap can set up stores and a Firefox widget that will enable people to direct Amazon referral fees for their purchase to

Re: Call for hackfest ideas

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Cox
More specifically, some pixbuf loaders (png and tiff) load the entire image, and then scale it. This leads to huge memory usage (bug 142428) loading the image. Yes - I reported this a a Gnome security problem about eight years ago. Quite a few gnome apps fed small compressed images explode.

Re: [guadec-list] Re-considering expectnation web service

2008-01-02 Thread Alan Cox
I agree 100% here, just because we're supposed to have an ideology of free software doesn't mean we should be against using non-free software. Hell, dreamweaver is an awesome product! This logic extends further that if we are able to help Expectnation become open source (as a previous post

Re: Money spending, questions for the candidates

2007-12-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:11:15 +0100 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Cox wrote: I just want to put this in perspective: the foundation has $200,000 in the bank, with guaranteed income of $100,000 a year approx. One employee costs at least $70,000 per year, and depending on the role

Re: Money spending, questions for the candidates

2007-11-30 Thread Alan Cox
I just want to put this in perspective: the foundation has $200,000 in the bank, with guaranteed income of $100,000 a year approx. One employee costs at least $70,000 per year, and depending on the role up to $100,000 or more. Manpower is expensive :) American manpower is expensive.

Re: GNOME dependent on Mono

2007-11-30 Thread Alan Cox
With Novell's customers getting exclusive patent protection for mono, it seems unfair for everyone else who have a heightened risk. Thats something to take up with the FSF. The implementation of the GPLv3 is badly flawed by allowing that activity to continue. The original act was Novell's, but

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Alan Cox
will believe it. Not a great way to encourage respectful discussion on this list, Nor is putting in strange references to ultimatums off private lists. That makes it very hard to follow, so thanks for explaining where it came from. As for trashing you, it seems any comment about the boards

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-03 Thread Alan Cox
I pointed out behaviour that I thought was inappropriate and unproductive. So did I ... I suggest you take a gander at the Code of Conduct So do I ... ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: board [was Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]]

2007-11-02 Thread Alan Cox
So, yes, I totally understand your position, but I think that falling back on unsympathetic, dramatic criticism of the Board and ultimatums is not a productive way of fixing the problem. unsympathetic, dramatic criticism would be telling it as it is of the Board would be blaming Jeff

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-11-01 Thread Alan Cox
Competing is a good thing, and in my opinion it's good that Microsoft competes with us. This keeps us sharp and focused. If you were sharp and focussed nobody would have joined anything in a way Microsoft could twist. Competition has never been a bad thing for mankind. In fact has it been

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-10-30 Thread Alan Cox
I look forward to further aggravated public shaming of past incompetencies, especially ones so obvious in hindsight, as it always improves motivation So you can do PR some of the time then Jeff aggravated public shaming of past incompetencies I have another word for that newspeak ...

Re: Suggestion for coming elections

2007-10-16 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:53:28 +0200 Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Quim Gil wrote: What happens when you get less than 7 people with votes? I don't understand - you mean if there are fewer than 7 candidates? Constitutional crisis, I suppose... everyone's elected, and they

Re: Regarding OOXML and Microsoft patents

2007-07-31 Thread Alan Cox
Michael throughout this discussion belong anywhere. Miguel and Michael have each done more for free software than most of us can even hope to aspire to That doesn't mean what they are doing now is good for free software. Just ask Mr Raymond ;) ___

Re: Regarding OOXML and Microsoft patents

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Cox
Meanwhile, if it is hard for Microsoft to fully implement a 600 page spec, that just reinforces the point that it is hard for us to implement a 6000 page spec. And this has been the Microsoft plan for standards for many years. In fact their own leaked memos say exactly this. Miguel - you might

Re: Regarding OOXML and Microsoft patents

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Cox
* The validity of the statement that we can be stopped from implementing OOXML: Has a lawyer weighted into whether the patent grants in the Microsoft OSP are not sufficient? All I have seen so far are opinions from advocates, with no legal background.

Re: Sponsorship letter

2007-06-29 Thread Alan Cox
Obviously to make it official it has to be a Board Member the one signing it. I hope someone can give me a hand! I can't sign it but some comments from things learned in the past His flight to Spain and United Kingdom, his accommodation and other {the United Kingdom} His flights to Spain,

Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008

2007-03-22 Thread Alan Cox
But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will exclude anything outside North America and Europe. That depends upon the time of year and location. The bit of North America which is civilised to

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-10-22 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Sad, 2006-10-21 am 18:01 +0200, ysgrifennodd Quim Gil: compatible with several operative systems, including GNU/Linux (commonly You've mis-spelled correctly as commonly and ignored the view of the owners of the Linux kernel and the Linux mark. Unfortunate. Can I urge translators to translate

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-05 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Sad, 2006-08-05 am 19:37 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov: combination. We include Linux in the name because it is an essential component of the system and the Linux developers deserve credit for their work. The GNU Project's policy was always to point out that Linux is a seperate

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Gwe, 2006-08-04 am 23:19 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov: This issue was first brought at GTP; I was substituting Linux with GNU/Linux in my translations and our team leader asked for a general solution on the -i18n list. Christian Rose, one of the GTP For the benefit of that meeting I'd

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Sad, 2006-08-05 am 00:00 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov: However, I'm not really familiar with Trademark Law, but if this is a really a problem, I suggest to call the system GNU. I'm using all GNU variants so I call the system GNU in 99.99% of the cases, when I refer to something

Re: Code of Conduct final draft?

2006-08-03 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Gwe, 2006-08-04 am 00:43 +0200, ysgrifennodd Quim Gil: - In a worst case scenario, do we expect the GNOME Foundation board to arbitrate if someone violates the list of behavior principles or do we think that one thing is not related to the other and the board should refer only to the GNOME

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-04 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Iau, 2006-06-01 am 17:50 -0400, ysgrifennodd Dominic Lachowicz: This rubs me the wrong way. It's not like we're actively working to exclude women, Asians, or Martians from GNOME. Nor are we actively trying to make GNOME a boys-only club. Simply put, there's no conscious, malicious intent

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-06-01 at 14:33 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Hmm, how about people working together? It just seems that the person who most most obviously wants this should be the person trying to make it happen. I'd be wary of pursuing just the women in GNOME issue, because many of the same

Re: LSB summit in Boston

2006-05-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-05-18 at 22:04 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: The Linux Standards Base is a plan to develop a specification for the GNU system. Not, in this case, for the GNU/Linux combination, No Richard, it is not. The Linux Standards Base produces specification documents. The implementation of

Re: Boilerplate copyright agreement for commercial exploitation

2006-05-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Sul, 2006-05-14 at 19:52 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Since lawyers talk .doc, and use revision control to track changes to the documents, that's what we ge too. Disappointing. I hope the foundation will reconsider that decision and post its documents in open formats as well. Alan

Re: Boilerplate copyright agreement for commercial exploitation

2006-05-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2006-05-15 at 15:25 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: I can certainly post a copy in ODT later in the week which gets converted into .doc every time we need to go to the lawyers... I won't always have the time to do it promptly, though. I will note that there are several high-quality free

Re: Boilerplate copyright agreement for commercial exploitation

2006-05-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2006-05-15 at 10:19 -0400, Dominic Lachowicz wrote: Stick to your open formats argument; it serves you better. ODT makes no guarantees that the documents will look the same across renderers or platforms. If the apps used exactly the same layout algorithms with the same fonts, ligature

Re: gnome-logos package

2005-12-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Sad, 2005-12-17 at 11:32 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: IANAL (yet), but... under US trademark law (and most European trademark law, as I understand it) basically all users of the mark must ask us for permission before use. We cannot adopt a permission scheme which allows any use of the logo

Re: poor man's SWOT analysis of GUADEC

2005-09-12 Thread Alan Cox
Opportunities: * no one else is really effectively reaching out to governments in most of the world, talking specifically about free software desktops as either a tool for them to use, or as a means of national economic empowerment * continue to see large deployments and corporate interest

Re: poor man's SWOT analysis of GUADEC

2005-09-12 Thread Alan Cox
On Llu, 2005-09-12 at 17:28 +0200, Anne Østergaard wrote: Interest from others in building desktop conferences up (eg with OLS) Alan do you mean OttawaLinuxSymposium? The very same but with spaces between the words (TooMuchWikiIsBadForYou) I think desktop conferences are coming up soon

Re: GNOME trademark guidelines and user group agreement

2005-09-11 Thread Alan Cox
On Sul, 2005-09-11 at 12:57 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Indeed. But the article discusses how magazines cannot distribute RHEL. RHEL is a support and service arrangement with attached product, so no a magazine could never distribute it. Centos is just code and they do Funnier is that you

Re: GNOME trademark guidelines and user group agreement

2005-09-09 Thread Alan Cox
That's what it says. I believe that we are going to handle logo modifications on a case-by-case basis. Please let us know if you want to use a modified logo, and as long as it's a reasonable usage, there will be no problem. The logo has repeatedly been supplied as part of official GNOME

Re: Distribution branding of GNOME

2005-03-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2005-03-09 at 15:43, Calum Benson wrote: they're Based on the OpenOffice.org project. No joy as yet unfortunately, but we do at least retain the About GNOME dialog and the contributor list. This is actually one issue that has come up with requests for the GPL revisions - to have