Re: Promoting Patreon campaigns in December

[Richard Hughes]

On 12 November 2017 at 21:44, Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
> We are wondering if there are others out there, or are considering having so
> that we can promote it?

Not strictly GNOME, but all related, there's the LVFS firmware
service: https://fwupd.org/donations

Richard.
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Re: Feedback request: spending Foundation money

[Richard Hughes]

On 25 September 2017 at 10:48, Allan Day  wrote:
>  1. Make it easier for non-Foundation members to get travel sponsorship. It
> would be useful to know if there are particular groups that this might apply
> to. Examples might include contributors who aren't members, potential
> contributors or experts who are being brought in to consult/advise.

Exactly. In this case it was a "freedesktop/KDE" contributor i.e.
someone we've worked with on cross-desktop stuff for some time.

>  2. Funds for "extras" at GNOME events, such as dinners. I'm guessing that
> other things could be included, like drinks and snacks, or merchandise?
> Also, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "team-building" - can you
> elaborate?

A social thing, e.g. a meal at a restaurant, a day trip to a museum or
some rock climbing or something. It's a lot easier to build a
community if you know someone has a baby / likes motorbikes / hates
heights :)

>  3. Higher standard hotels and flights. I'm maybe reading too much into your
> mail here, but "super cheap hotel" makes it sound like you'd maybe like to
> be able to stay somewhere a little nicer?

Well, it was kinda tongue in cheek; personally I don't mind staying
somewhere budget as the whole point is to get people in the same place
at the same time -- but for some people having to share rooms means
they're unlikely to participate. Maybe we could have some flexibility
in the travel options, or if there currently is some flexibility, some
guidance on what is and isn't appropriate.

Thanks!

Richard.
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Re: Feedback request: spending Foundation money

[Richard Hughes]

On 18 September 2017 at 18:10, Neil McGovern  wrote:
> So, if you have any comments, or thoughts on how this can be improved,
> please reply, or drop me a mail - we plan on discussing this in detail
> at the Foundation Hackfest[0] at the start of next month!

When we were arranging the gnome-software hackfest last year we had
huge problems trying to get sponsorship for a non-GNOME foundation
member. In the end Canonical paid for the travel and hotel (thanks!)
for this person but it was slightly embarrassing how long things took
to sort. For things like hackfests it would also be nice to have a
"team dinner" or some kind of team-building thing as part of the
sponsorship, not just some super cheap hotel and economy flights.

Richard.
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Re: GNOME Software London Hackfest 2016

[Richard Hughes]

On 22 March 2016 at 17:47, Ekaterina Gerasimova  wrote:
> The short notice for the event will make it more difficult to get good
> value on travel/accommodation costs, which is why the travel committee
> asks that hackfests are organised well in advance and requests are
> sent it at least a month before the event.

Yup, I know, my apologies. I originally had this as a hand-picked
meetup of specific people from specific companies, but quite a few
other GNOME people were interested too. I'm also working with about 7
calendars so we were really limited on possible dates. Until 3 days
ago everyone was happy to self-fund travel and hotel so it wasn't
super important. If the lateness makes it a total *no* from the
foundation then let me know and we can ask around for other donations.

> Please keep in mind that there may also be interest in the hackfest
> from others too.

I actually wanted to keep things small to avoid needing a larger venue
and so we actually got stuff done. In my experience the larger the
hackfest the less actually gets done. I've got a soft limit of 10,
with 8 places already taken, so I don't think I can make this a huge
thing.

> If anyone is missing wiki privileges, please forward their wiki
> username to me and I will get them added today.

Thanks. I can copy the participants from the doc to the wiki if it helps.

Richard
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GNOME Software London Hackfest 2016

[Richard Hughes]

Hi all,

I've been asked to write a hackfest page for a micro-turning-mini
hackfest I've been planning for April. The minimal page is at
https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/GnomeSoftware2016 and I think we're
mostly self funded with the exception of one guy we'd quite like there
(and would need sponsorship). Happy to answer questions, although the
google working doc we're using (not everyone has wiki privs) is here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lXk3I-i4lLbR1lP_TyZxCHhvyGZf5Ot-jIIVa9bew20/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks,

Richard
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Re: [OT] Re: You logo

[Richard Hughes]

On 3 April 2015 at 15:57, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
 So I'm leaving this list.

Me too. If I was to troll people about the same uninteresting thing
again and again and again I would either get moderated or banned. If
anyone wants to reply, please reply to my personal email address.

Richard
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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Emily Gonyer

[Richard Hughes]

On 21 May 2014 12:24, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sure, those of us who are not currently paid can speak up on mailing lists, 
 but we're (mostly) roundly ignored.

I think this is a classic case of code speaks -- i.e. if you're
willing to spend the time writing the feature and maintaining the code
for the next 5 years, you probably have more say than someone just
yelling do it like this and not contributing anything concrete. I
think most projects inside and outside the GNOME umbrella are
structured in a meritocracy which seems to work very well indeed.
Having a voice != getting to decide what other people work on.

Richard
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of March 11th, 2014

[Richard Hughes]

On 24 March 2014 16:18, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am less interested in where the toggle lives[0] than who is storing
 the data, and what kind of data it is.

Right; 100% agreed. My original idea was to store one thing with the
distributor:

* The hashed IP (i.e. you can go from IP-id, but not id-IP) and the
application id (the .desktop name) that was installed or removed.

So sent over the wire would be the IP address (as if visiting a
website) and something like gimp.desktop and stored on the server
would be some kind of hash (e.g. SHA256) and a counter for
gimp.desktop.

The only thing we can get from this webservice as a user is:

* The number of people who installed gimp.desktop and the number of
people who uninstalled it
* A list of applications that were installed or removed across all users

The only thing (assuming the distro is *not* evil) the people
maintaining the database can see is the SHA256 hash and the
application count.

Richard
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of March 11th, 2014

[Richard Hughes]

On 25 March 2014 22:41, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:
 We might _store_ just a hash code, but I am pretty sure the messages
 contain the real IP address of the sender.

Sure, just as much as your IP is sent to the NTP server or the
google.com homepage.

 The feature should be useful, but it should operate locally.  Based on
 whoever chooses to tell us what is installed, we could calculate a set
 of recommendation rules.  The package installation facility could
 check those rules to make recommendations, in a purely local way.
 That would avoid asking people to upload their list of installed packages
 in order to get recommendations.

That's exactly what I want to do, getting recommendations from a
remote source would be both inefficient and unnecessary. Your
arguments identifies the root cause of all this effort; without _data_
we can't actually generate these client side rules. I could manually
go though a thousand applications and try to think what *I* might use
if I had this application installed, but that's going to be both
wildly inaccurate given I'm not the kind of person to generate
knitting patterns or listen to MIDI music. It's the data I need.

Ohh, and asking random people to send me a package list is going to
wildly skew the results; normal people don't run random commands in a
terminal. We want data from people using GNOME, rather than
*developing* GNOME. If you can think of a better way to get this data,
I'm all ears.

Richard
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Re: Distribution Naming System (Was: Re: Is there GNU/Linux distribution which includes always latest gnome 3)

[Richard Hughes]

On 3 April 2014 19:18, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:
 That's true.  Most distros do not recognize that this system is
 basically GNU; they give the credit for the GNU Project's work
 to Mr Torvalds, rather than to us.

By calling it Linux, I'm also not recognizing the work of the Apache
foundation. I'm also not recognising that systemd is basically running
the whole show nowadays. I think those projects should be recognised,
but I'm also sure I don't want to type GNU/Linux/Apache/systemd every
time I refer to my OS.

Richard
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Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

[Richard Hughes]

On 10 May 2013 15:55, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
 I've never heard the word gimp used as a slur against handicapped
 people

If it helps, I've never heard the word used this way either. However,
my understanding of the common use of the word isn't any better
(warning; possibly NSFW):

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gimp+masktbm=isch

Richard.
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Re: jabber.gnome.org's future

[Richard Hughes]

On 1 March 2013 13:04, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
 I didn't even know it existed...

I second that -- and I'm not sure how it's supposed to be used, or by
who... e.g. is it for use by anyone with a @gnome.org email address,
or can it be used by the unwashed masses as well?

Richard.
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Re: Database's machine DOWN

[Richard Hughes]

On 4 June 2012 08:02, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:
 Is the sql database for the elections impacted by this? If yes, is there
 a risk that some votes got lost?

Some bugs appear to have been lost, e.g.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677387

Richard.
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Re: Desktop Summit Planning

[Richard Hughes]

On 14 December 2011 13:32, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote:
 Well, but let's not forget that the folks you explicitly list here are
 probably more on the side against the colocation than for it. At least
 of the one you named first I know that he is against the combined
 conf. And I think Richard is too, I think (Richard?)

First things first, I'll be happy if we have a GUADEC or a desktop
summit, both events rocked hard. My preference would be for the
former, just on the personal belief that I end up doing so much extra
work for the KDE desktop and get virtually nothing back. It seems to
me that low level gnome hackers end up doing all the infrastructure
grunt work in the name of cross-desktop compatibility and then KDE
either does something different or abstracts it one layer higher. I
can't think of one system service we use in the GNOME stack that's
maintained by a KDE person. I can name a dozen GNOME maintainers doing
the opposite.

But like I say, I don't have a particularly strong view about it.

Richard.
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Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

[Richard Hughes]

2009/12/10 Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org:
 The presence of articles discussing vmware, for instance,
 conveys the message that GNOME sees nothing wrong with it.

I think you've added 1 and 1 and made 7.

Richard.
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