Re: Foundation Members without a working e-mail address: ballots
Hi Andrea > On 26 May 2016, at 13:04, Andrea Veri wrote: > > Hey, > > ballots for this year's elections were sent out earlier today and > while pretty much all the ones we had prepared were properly sent from > our mailing server, four of them bounced back with a non-existing > domain error, they were: > > 1. Philippe Normand > 2. Rodrigo Moya I was going to reply that my email didn’t change, but just saw, right after this one, the voting instructions mail, so seems all is ok on my side, right? Rodrigo > 3. Jan Schmidt > 4. Stefan Kost > > If any of this members are interested in receiving their ballot please > get in touch with me in order for their e-mail address to be updated > and ballots re-sent. > > Thanks, > > -- > Cheers, > > Andrea > > Debian Developer, > Fedora / EPEL packager, > GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator, > GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: European bank account for donations
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 14:36 -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: > Are any of GNOME's 3 sister organizations that have bank accounts in > Europe a tax free charity currently? If not, then are we in a position > to meet requirements and set one up? > GNOME Hispano is, and AFAIR has been used to get money for some of the GUADEC's organized in Spain. Chema Casanova should have more details of all this cheers ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Board Elections Spring 2011 - Preliminary Results
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:50 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > Dear Foundation Members, > > the GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee is pleased to > announce the preliminary results for the Board of Directors. > > We strongly encourage everyone to look at the detailed results to verify > their ballot (see below). > > These results can be challenged by sending an e-mail to > elections gnome org The challenges have to be sent before Tuesday, > 2011-06-21, 23:59 UTC. Please note that these results should not be > considered final until any challenge have been resolved. > > > Candidates in order of (first) votes received, with affiliations: > > Stormy Peters (38 votes) - Mozilla > Germán Póo-Caamaño(22 votes) - None > Emmanuele Bassi (18 votes) - Open Source > Technology Center, Intel UK Ltd > Shaun McCance(15 votes) - Syllogist LLC > Brian Cameron (14 votes) - Oracle > Bastien Nocera (14 votes) - Red Hat UK > Diego Escalante Urrelo (12 votes) - Igalia > Ryan Lortie (10 votes) - Codethink > Limited > Lionel Dricot(9 votes)- Lanedo > Andre Klapper (9 votes)- Openismus GmbH > Rodrigo Moya (7 votes)- Canonical > Pockey Lam (6 votes)- None > Andrea Veri (3 votes)- None > > The results can be found at: > http://foundation.gnome.org/vote/results.php?election_id=16 > > A list of all votes can be found at: > http://foundation.gnome.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=16 > > > If the results are not challenged, then the elected directors will be: > > Shaun McCance > Emmanuele Bassi > Stormy Peters > Bastien Nocera > Brian Cameron > Germán Póo-Caamaño > Ryan Lortie > instead of being sad for not being elected, looking at this board I am really happy to see so many good and experienced people, so congrats to the new board! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Two Questions for the Board Candidates
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 10:38 -0700, Lefty wrote: > First: Since the issue of "divisive attitude[s] such as Richard sometimes > seems to [promote?] when he talks about 'GNU/Linux'" came up, I'd be > interested to know what, if anything, candidates for the Board propose to do > to address the ongoing waste of time and energy in the community over trivia > like "Linux" versus "GNU/Linux", "free" versus "open source", and the like. > This extends to things like "litmus tests" on mailing lists derailing > discussions into observations about which email clients or operating systems > participants might be using at the time they post, for example. > > Attempts to divide the community and delegitimize individuals and their > viewpoints are common, and becoming increasingly so in the past few years. > Bad feelings have driven many away from the level of involvement in the > community they've previously had. Do candidates see this as a problem? Do > they have any proposals for addressing it? > not sure that divides the community, but indeed is a waste of time and effort. I really think Richard is right in making sure the message gets correctly to the wider audience, but there's no need to point that out in GNOME mailing lists, where the audience already knows what each term really means My only proposal for this is mailing list moderation and common sense :-) > Second: Do candidates have any view as to how the disastrous attempts at > engagement by GNOME with the mobile space might be improved on? The "GNOME > Mobile and Embedded Initiative" went nowhere, and arguably handed the mobile > device space to Google and Android by forfeit. Since that time, there have > been various attempts to get community-based, mainstream open source onto > mobile devices, all of which have pretty much died. The sole remaining effort > seems to be MeeGo, and GNOME has no apparent direct involvement there. > > Do candidates have any thoughts on the future of GNOME with respect to the > mobile space? It's the fastest-growing portion of the general computing > device market, and the main platform choices are proprietary or as good as. > One of the issues raised by Canonical with respect to the GNOME 3 shell for > Ubuntu was that it wasn't felt to be as appropriate for tablets and the like > as Unity... > I haven't really been involved at all in the mobile space, so I don't have much data, but for sure, I think the board should try to get in contact with mobile-interested parties and see what their needs would be. Although I guess with the recent moves from Nokia and the success of Android, the situation is not easy IMO. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Question to candidates: on-line services
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 00:27 +0200, Gil Forcada wrote: > Hi members, > > Everyday more and more services are offered on the cloud and there's > also initiatives powered by Free Software (tomboy on-line...). > > One of the main problems for Free Software projects providing cloud > services is the hardware/administration/connection expenses which are > mostly a no-go for a Free Software project without any backing from a > big corporation. > > As a member of a the future board will you look for ways to promote and > look for resources to offer these free software cloud services? Maybe > part of a funding campaign (be a Friend of GNOME and have a Tomboy > on-line account for free). > I don't think the Foundation can engage in setting up a service for this, but what it can do is to engage in discussions with companies that offer this kind of services. Then, on the technical side, there could be a common interface so that GNOME apps could work with any service provided by any company willing to. An example might be CouchDB, which is already used in Ubuntu One, for instance. So GNOME apps could just use CouchDB for replication of data and users could just use the service they want. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Questions for all board candidates
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 05:43 -0700, Jeff Schroeder wrote: > 1.) For incumbents, have you missed any meetings? What is your % of > missed vs attended meetings and why? For new challengers, how much > time can you dedicate to working on the board each week? How do you > plan on spending that time? > I am not sure yet, since this is my 1st time on the board. But as for what others have told me, the board should take a few hours a week, which fortunately I seem to have. But apart from the board's tasks, I would spend lots of my real working hours dealing with the relationship of GNOME and distributors (Ubuntu specifically) > 2.) Other open source / free software projects run their meetings in > the open via IRC (such as Fedora's FESCO I believe). Would you > consider that, and if not, what about recording how board members vote > on a given topic. This includes +1 / -1 / abstains and perhaps give a > small comment on any -1 or abstain. In my opinion, as an open > foundation, the transparency of the board is absolutely critical > _where possible_. Leaders should always set the example for members. > I think that's a good idea for most topics. Although, AFAIK, some topics are discussed privately first (because of sensible information being discussed), so in those cases a private discussion might be needed. As for the recording of votes, I think it might be good, but again, this is my 1st time on the board (if I get elected :-) so not sure if others with more experience would agree. But it is definitely a good thing to consider. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Candidates question: Contributor agreement
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 12:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > Given that we already have a policy on copyright assignments[1], I > wondered what is your position regarding contributor agreements[2]? > Should the board do something with contributor agreements and if so, > what should be done? > > [1] https://live.gnome.org/CopyrightAssignment > [2] e.g. http://lwn.net/Articles/442782/ and > http://www.harmonyagreements.org/ copyright/contributor agreement are a stop gap for getting new contributions IMO, so the Foundation should really have the same position for both, that is, any GNOME-blesses source code should not have neither of them. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: question for candidates
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 11:10 -0700, Andy Tai wrote: > As Fedora is the only current GNU/Linux distribution adapting GNOME > 3.0 as the default desktop, how would you facilitate to make GNOME > technologies to work well (meaning minimal local patching needed) on > other GNU/Linux distributions like Debian, and such distributions > which may work on components competing with certain parts of GNOME, > such as Ubuntu? And how would you facilitate to make GNOME 3 run well > on other free OS environments, especially the BSD based ones, like > OpenBSD and FreeBSD? > I really think we should get in more discussions with any GNOME distributor, so that we cover our needs and theirs (or part of). As for the Ubuntu side, which I explicitly mentioned on my candidacy mail, I think there are problems on both sides. First, Ubuntu people should get more involved in the development of GNOME, by taking part in the discussions and development of new features. From the GNOME side, the anti-ubuntu/canonical feeling that some Ubuntu/Canonical people perceive [1] should completely disappear. So, whether I get elected or not, I will try as hard as possible to get more Ubuntu/Canonical people to contribute actively to GNOME and that will only lead to the anti-ubuntu perception to disappear. To start with, just so you know, Ubuntu's next version (Oneiric) is including GNOME3. But Fedora being the only distro with GNOME3 is just a matter of timing, since GNOME3 just got released a few weeks ago. I'm sure most distros will have GNOME 3.0/3.2 soon As for gnome-shell/unity, I think that's technical enough to not be part of the board's role, but as other candidates have said, if Ubuntu keeps using the GNOME platform, we should be helping them having the platform they need, and Ubuntu should communicate to GNOME what it expects from the platform. But again, that's a technical thing, and the board should just help in making the relationships with Ubuntu (and others) as smooth as possible. [1] I work for Canonical and I don't see that anti-canonical feeling at all from GNOME contributors, but lots of people in the Ubuntu community have told me they feel that way. So not sure what the problem is really, but there is that perception for sure. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Fwd: Question for the canditates
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 19:49 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: > Forwarding to foundation-list two questions we received from > Ali-Reza Anghaie. Please don't add membership-committee@g.o > as CC, follow-ups should be kept on -list. Thanks. > > Andrea > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ali-Reza Anghaie > Date: 2011/5/25 > Subject: Question for the canditates > To: membership-commit...@gnome.org > > > I'd like to ask two questions of all the candidates please: > > 1) As GNOME has matured the number of officially supported language > bindings has decreased. The quality and availability of various > language communities own bindings has varied wildly to say the least. > How would you work to improve this situation? > the only thing that the board can do is to try to get other translations teams (Launchpad, others) to contribute to GNOME, although not sure if that would increase the number of supported translations > 2) What are your own feelings on supporting fairly new languages and > standards like Go and Perl 6? > that's a technical issue ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [question to candidates] GNOME OS
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 08:24 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > Hello all, > > GNOME OS has been mentioned and questioned repeatedly in recent > discussions on desktop-devel-list, about its definition itself[1], > and the changing (or not?) role of the GNOME project with regards > to distributions (based or not on the Linux kernel). > > What are your thougths on this?[2] Do you think this is a foundation > job to answer those questions? If not, is this a responsibility of the > release team? Or something that is best left unanswered, as pieces are > put into positions by different persons? > I really think the GNOME OS idea is a very good one, that is, making GNOME provide access to configuration and features of the underlying OS, so that it is a complete desktop that can deal with everything the users would ever need from a desktop. But at the same time we have people from OSes other than Linux interested in using GNOME, so I think we should take those into account, even if their developers don't work on making GNOME work on those OSes as actively as the Linux crowd. So, I think we should not be targetting only Linux, but make the developer communities of those OSes more active in GNOME. More people helping can just lead to a better GNOME. As for who makes the decision, since it's a technical thing, it's up to the release team/maintainers/future technical board (if any), but I think the board should be really giving the message that any UNIX-based OS is supported in GNOME, and make it easier for the developers of those other kernels to provide their own versions of the Linux-only stuff used in GNOME (by talking to them so that they get engaged in technical discussions) When Linux-only stuff is needed in GNOME, like systemd, I think, as discussed in the thread, clear-defined interfaces should be provided so that people from other kernels can easily implement what is needed. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Candidacy: Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 12:50 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 11:26 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 10:45 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:23:47AM +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > > > Also, based on recent discussions, I would like to help define the > > > > message we give to 3rd parties about what GNOME is, so there is no > > > > confusion as to what those 3rd parties should expect from GNOME. > > > > > > Do you think GNOME means GNOME shell or not? > > > > yes, I do > > Could you both elaborate, please? > > Rodrigo: can you explain how the GNOME project will benefit? Why is your > approach better than the alternatives? > well, not sure my approach is better, I'm sure other candidates will have great ideas also, just that there seems to be a lot of discussions about what GNOME OS is/is not or should/should not be. So I'd like to contribute in making it clear what the whole GNOME project is for 3rd parties. As my personal opinion, I agree completely on the GNOME OS idea, although we should really not forget other OSes (Solaris, *BSD, etc) that use GNOME or other systems (Meego, etc) that are interested in just using our platform. So, I will try to keep the focus on the GNOME OS idea (with GNOME Shell, to answer again Olav's question) but making sure this doesn't break our relationship with those other systems. Does this answer your question? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Candidacy: Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 10:45 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:23:47AM +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > Also, based on recent discussions, I would like to help define the > > message we give to 3rd parties about what GNOME is, so there is no > > confusion as to what those 3rd parties should expect from GNOME. > > Do you think GNOME means GNOME shell or not? yes, I do ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Candidacy: Rodrigo Moya
Name: Rodrigo Moya Email: rodr...@gnome.org Nick: rodrigo Blog: http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo Affiliation: Canonical Summary === I joined the GNOME project in 1998 and have since then worked on several projects (Evolution, GNOME-DB, Control Center, gnome-settings-daemon and others) both on my free time and while working for some GNOME-related companies (Ximian, Novell and Canonical now). Details === The main reason for my candidacy is the relationship between GNOME and companies (specifically my current employer), which I would like to improve, trying to get both sides of the problem fixed so that a healthy and cooperative relationship can be built to make GNOME rock more than what it's been rocking in all these years. Also, based on recent discussions, I would like to help define the message we give to 3rd parties about what GNOME is, so there is no confusion as to what those 3rd parties should expect from GNOME. Apart from that, I would like to help in spreading more the GNOME love, which I used to do a lot some years ago, when I was one of the most active persons in the GNOME Hispano group, but now with a more international scope. That is, I would like to help local groups get more people to become contributors to GNOME in whatever ways the Foundation can use to make that happen. As for my experience in this kind of role, it's not that much, but I've been part of the GNOME Hispano board since its creation, in 2003/2004, where, even though the big work there has always been done by other people (like Jose Angel Díaz and Chema Casanova), I've learnt a lot of things that might be helpful to my position in the Foundation Board if I get elected. If you are still wondering whether I would be a good fit for the board, just wanted to say that my 1st task if I get elected will be to increment everyone's salary :-) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Candidacy: Seif Lotfy
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 23:19 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote: > > > Yet you think the solution to attracting new developers is to > wrap the > processes up in red tape and technical boards or design > boards? Surely > Free Software is supposed to be about meritocracy, not about > boards > dictating how an individual project should be run. > > > > Well currently there is a GNOME Shell meritocracy among the RH > employees. How is that meritocracy for the community. > Yes I think the solution is setting up boards. It is not a Meritocracy > as soon as sole responsibilities are given to a group of individuals > affiliated with the same corporation. > so, we complain that companies don't contribute enough upstream, and when a big team of developers from one company works on a new project, we don't like it? So what's the problem, that we want more non-RH people working on it? Since the development has been open for more than a year, I don't see anything preventing non-RH people to do so. As for giving responsibilities to a group of individuals, it is what happens in all GNOME modules. So, I don't see why we would need a board for gnome-shell and not for gnome-control-center, nautilus or others, or are you suggesting to add a huge bureaucracy for every non-trivial change/development that we do? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Announcing our new Foundation members
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 09:00 +0200, Xabier Rodriguez Calvar wrote: > O Mér, 21-04-2010 ás 20:55 +0200, Andrea Veri escribiu: > > 5. Xabier Rodriguez Calvar (main developer in MAFW (Maemo), Hildon > > (Maemo) and Fisterra project) > > I am Xabier and currently I work at Igalia (I became partner a couple of > months ago). > > Some years ago I was one of the main developers of Fisterra (and ERP > framework using GNOME technologies) and one of the main developers of > MAFW (the multimedia application framework used in Maemo 5, Fremantle). > Lately, I have been collaborating in Hildon (the widgets library for > Maemo 5 built on top of GTK) and Grilo (a framework to provide > multimedia content). Regarding MAFW and Grilo, I am writing a MAFW > plugin to feed MAFW with the contents provided by Grilo. > > And nothing else to add :) . Best regards. > although you have already been part of GNOME for a long time, welcome! :) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: An overdue introduction
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 22:08 -0500, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: > Hello all, > > I was pleased a few weeks ago to receive the notification that I had > been accepted as a member of the GNOME Foundation. It's an honor and a > privilege to be associated with an organization that has such strong > ideals and great successes. And each day that I work with GNOME, I'm > humbled to be a part of this great organization. > > So, who am I? Honestly, there's so many parts to this organization that > I haven't had a chance to meet you all in the various projects. My > primary focus is with GNOME-A11y. And why? Because I'm visually > impaired and want to make sure I can still use the computer as my vision > loss progresses. > > I'm not a developer by any stretch of the imagination and my focus has > been on advocacy and promotion. I recently travelled with the A11y team > to the CSUN Accessibility Technology Conference/GNOME A11y Hackfest and > truly had a great time getting to know everyone face to face. > > Though I've participated in team activities for about 2 years now, I > recently started looking at formalizing the work I've done with the > hopes of expanding advocacy and spreading the word that GNOME is a very > *VIABLE* option for accessibility needs. I hope to interface with > interface with many of you as my efforts begin to solidify. > > Outside of GNOME, I also participate in the openSUSE Project as a Board > Member as well as Lead for the openSUSE Marketing Team. > > Many thanks again, for allowing me to be a part of this great > organization. > welcome Bryen! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:00 +0100, Luis de Bethencourt wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/10/21 Bruno Boaventura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Hello everybody! > >> > >> The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is pleased to present the new > >> members: > >> > >> - Filippo Argiolas > >> - Flavio Percoco > >> - Jiri Eischmann > >> - Juanje Ojeda Croissier > > > > At last Juanje! Welcome! > > I thought Juanje was already a member... oh well, WELCOME! > he is a long time GNOME person, but never applied for the foundation until now, so welcome Juanje :-) -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:00 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > I wouldn't mind having a joint skiing/hacking conference there :-) > > Crazy idea (tell me if I've been smoking the wacky baccy): > > Someone offers to host the Summit at the Summit, say in Utah or > Whistler? Travel costs would be an issue, but fitting in some skiing > over a holiday weekend in (say) February would be cool. > where do I need to sign? :-) Seriously, I went once to a ski resort, and some doctors conference was taking place in a hotel there, and I really think it would be a great thing for hackfests (maybe not for a big conference like GUADEC or the Summit), but getting the right people together in a similar place might be much more productive than getting them on a big city, in separated hotels, and no sport activities at all :-) Getting 15/20 people together in a hotel, for some skiing during the morning, and talks and hacking in the afternoon / evening could be a good way of organising hackfests At least, hackers would learn how to ski :-) and the same could be done during the summer, with some biking/hiking activities in the morning. We are all getting old, so we need something else than only hacking :-) -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:33 -0400, Clare So wrote: > > As for me, the reason not pushing for Canada is that a GNOME community > > in Canada is surprisingly non-existent. Sure, there's you, me, and > > desrt. But that's pretty much it. > > Is there anyone from Western Canada? You, me, desrt and Hub are > living in the Eastern part of the country. > > I agree with you, Behdad. There is no point in pushing for Canada. > Other than the size of the community, another important factor is the > weather. The winter here would be too shocking for a lot of people. > (7-feet snowbank, -25C in the night, 10cm of new snow in a day ... > just to name a few. But hey, great for skiing, snowboarding or > skating!) > I wouldn't mind having a joint skiing/hacking conference there :-) > Where in the world with the highest concentration of GNOME and KDE > community? This thread has so far been considering the GNOME > community only. > KDE seems to be more Europe-centric than GNOME, from what I know -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for hackfest ideas
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 14:48 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > I guess most people have read various blog posts about how the GTK+ > hackfest went, and I've heard there'll be a small report about it too. > But the general feeling seems to be that it was really useful. > > One of the things the Board wants to see happen this year is hackfests, > and the fact that the GTK+ one was a success is a good sign that we > should do this :-) But to make this happen, we need help from the > community to come up with ideas of hackfests and we also need help from > volunteers to lead this effort. > > So if you can think of a topic that would be suitable for a hackfest, > please talk about it with a few people and share your idea. > a good topic IMO would be GIO porting, to make sure we remove all gnome-vfs dependencies and to make sure all apps make use of it, so that you can easily work, in gedit for instance, with files on a SFTP mount, etc -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME dependent on Mono
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 20:03 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > I read http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/05/gnome-mono-yelp/ with > great concern. > > Since I am not an expert, I cannot tell on my own if that description > of the situation is accurate. If part of it is not accurate, I hope > someone will explain. However, if it is accurate, GNOME has a serious > problem. > > I have always supported the development of free platforms for C#, just > as I've supported the development of free platforms for any language > that users use. I also wouldn't argue that people should not use C# > with a free platform for secondary applications. > > However, making GNOME depend on Mono is running a grave risk, and a > grave mistake. If the article accurately describes the situation, I > think we need to launch a high-priority project to reimplement Yelp in > some other language. > Yelp uses, optionally (off by default), libbeagle, which is a C library. I don't see where the problem is, really, it's just an optional dependency like other programs, that have an optional dep on Python, for some plugins and similar stuff. Should we raise the alarm also that GNOME is depending, not only on Mono, but on Python also? I think the guy that wrote that article should have done what he says at the end, that is, look at the sources and the .spec file. He probably would have written another thing -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Foundation and Source Code Copyright
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 11:56 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Thomas Wood wrote: > > During discussions about copyright at GUADEC several people mentioned > > that developers were not encouraged to assign copyright to the GNOME > > Foundation. > > >From my point of view, "not encouraged" isn't the way I see things. > Certainly no-one has done so so far, > hmm, sorry to say that, but I was under the impression this was suggested many years ago (2/3 or maybe 4), and indeed I've written some code myself assigning the copyright to the foundation. Usually small stuff that is not in GNOME, but I just had a look, and the whole of libgda is (C) The GNOME Foundation. So, should all those source files be changed, or can we do something about it? IIRC, the argument that convinced me for using the foundation as (C) owner was that, in case of a problem that involves a court, it would be easier to defend the code with just one big legal body than with 10s of different developers, some of which might have disappeared or even changed their commitment to free software. If this argument is still valid, I think we should do something, now that most previous and current contributors still support free software :-) -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 06:44 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 12:43 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 22:39 +0300, Quim Gil wrote: > > > About the KDE & GNOME event, probably the best way to progress is by > > > doing progressive approaches. Jumping from the current situation to a > > > joint conference sounds a bit like going from self-esteem to the 32nd > > > position of the Kama Sutra in one go. > > > > > As others have suggested, a successful combined room in FOSDEM would > > > be already a big (and useful) step. Trying to put together GUADEC and > > > aKademy befor trying smaller challenges in save contexts would be very > > > risky. > > > > > a good idea is the GUADEMY we recently had in A Coruña. It was just a > > start, but the idea is very good, get KDE/GNOME developers together and > > have talks/tutorials/etc of things that are common to both desktops. > > Doing separate tracks for KDE and GNOME (which is what mixing GUADEC and > > Akademy would mean) might not be a good idea, since you'll get 2 > > separated groups with almost no interaction. > > This is missing the point that GUADEC is about meeting people, not the > talks. I guess aKademy is the same. > I think so also, I like GUADEC for meeting people, but since both GUADEC and Akademy have lots of talks, and lots of people attend them, it is also about the talks, and you meet people, usually, that are interested in your same stuff, so having separate KDE/GNOME talks would mean, at the end, only a few inter-desktop relationships :-) > > > So, until we are all really interested in what the "rival" desktop is > > doing, I think it would be better to organise separate events, and have > > a 2nd edition of the GUADEMY (as part of FOSDEM if that helps), with > > more focus on collaboration between desktops, so that people really > > interested in the collaboration can attend. All others can continue > > going to GUADEC/Akademy. > > First, I don't think of KDE as rival. Hell Qt developers and I are > working together on HarfBuzz! > I don't think of KDE as rival neither, that's why I used "rival" > Next, so you think most people are not > interested in knowing what KDE hackers are doing? > they are interested, at least most people, but they would prefer to go to talks about their desktop than the other. > That may even be the > case, doesn't mean that it's good. People don't wake up in the morning > and decide that they have become interested in KDE. They do if they > talk about interesting projects over beer with interesting people that > happen to be KDE hackers though. > that's why a more specialised event, like GUADEMY, with talks about joint efforts, might be a better idea, IMO. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 22:39 +0300, Quim Gil wrote: > About the KDE & GNOME event, probably the best way to progress is by > doing progressive approaches. Jumping from the current situation to a > joint conference sounds a bit like going from self-esteem to the 32nd > position of the Kama Sutra in one go. > As others have suggested, a successful combined room in FOSDEM would > be already a big (and useful) step. Trying to put together GUADEC and > aKademy befor trying smaller challenges in save contexts would be very > risky. > a good idea is the GUADEMY we recently had in A Coruña. It was just a start, but the idea is very good, get KDE/GNOME developers together and have talks/tutorials/etc of things that are common to both desktops. Doing separate tracks for KDE and GNOME (which is what mixing GUADEC and Akademy would mean) might not be a good idea, since you'll get 2 separated groups with almost no interaction. So, until we are all really interested in what the "rival" desktop is doing, I think it would be better to organise separate events, and have a 2nd edition of the GUADEMY (as part of FOSDEM if that helps), with more focus on collaboration between desktops, so that people really interested in the collaboration can attend. All others can continue going to GUADEC/Akademy. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 11:04 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 16:01 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > > > > > Another option that could be considered is back-to-back co-location. > > You > > > get a lot of the same advantages in terms of cheaper financials, yet > > > since they will be run sequentially at the same location you don't > > get > > > the collisions and 'noise' of sharing one venue at the same time. > > And > > > interested GNOME hackers could that way easy attend aKademy by > > extending > > > their stay a little and the same for KDE hackers the other way > > around. > > > > I'm not poo-pooing the idea completely, but let me ask the question: > > do > > you think many people will be able to take 2 consecutive weeks to go > > to > > two conferences? I know I wouldn't (the boss would probably think I > > was > > nuts, and the wife would kill me). I'm wondering if there are a lot of > > volunteers in the same situation as me. > > FWIW, that's what people attending GUADEC-es has been doing for the last > years: attending GUADEC-es during week n, and then GUADEC during the > week n+1. And that includes people traveling from South America. > > I'd say that people who have organized GUADEC-es in the past can give > more feedback on how good results have they got with this approach of > organizing the conference in a very close date to GUADEC. > not from the organization, but I know it has helped, at least, in having more latin-americans in GUADEC-ES than if it were not that close to GUADEC. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Foundation financial info
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 22:11 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: > Hello list, > > Thanks $deity, I got sponsored for attending GUADEC this year. Being > peruvian, I have to deal with visas to go to UK and Spain (this is > because of the route I'm taking). > > One of the requisites for getting the visa is to proof that if I'm not > paying the trip myself then someone else is doing it. This person > -among other things- should provide a financial report of -at least- > the last 3 months (bank accounts, cards, pay checks, etc). > I was suggested to check the IRS and use the info they show/provide > for this but I couldn't find anything (being a non-USA resident I > might have missed where to look). > > So, I'd like a word of help/orientation about who should I talk to get > this information. Time is a problem, so I need to get this info as > soon as possible. > other years, people from other countries just needed a formal letter of invitation to the conference. Maybe that'll work also? -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME annual report
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:45 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > > I admit, I was hoping for a different reaction to this announcement. So > > far I have had 4 replies, all critical of some aspect of the report. > > Doesn't anyone think it's cool that we finally got something like this > > (and all of the other user group stuff) done? > > Dave, > > It is a very nice report! It is visually attractive. I hope it grows > each year. > > About the reaction... starting your release paragraph with "In secret" > was bound to cause an involuntary negative reaction in open source > devotees... > I also think it is a very nice report, good work!!! But I guess the criticisms are because people want to improve them (so, yeah, we want them every year! :-) -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME annual report
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 15:07 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Rodrigo, > > Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > it looks great, but I miss mentions to local movements, like the hackers > > meetings at Chile and Holland (IIRC), the GUADEC-ES, the addition of > > Mongolia to the GNOME map, etc. > > > > Not sure if you want to go to that level of detail, but it would be > > great to also mention these local efforts. > > Here's the major problem we have: > http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/free-software-and-its-writers > > I would love to have a set of reports coming back from community run > events and organisations which I could collect into an annual - it would > make my job much easier. But for the most part, I either don't know > what's going on, or I know, but can't find any written accounts, and so > I don't know what to write about :) > > I would love that level of detail and I would love to see more local > groups organising things. I would probably exercise constraint and avoid > each new "New contributor from country X!" type notes but the growth of > GNOME worldwide is something that's important. > as Germán pointed out, people dind't know you were going to write that :-) And anyway, I got all that information just from reading the planets and mailing lists. But yeah, as Germán suggested, local groups might have to get used to write summaries. As for the "new contributor for country X", I agree with you we don't want to do that for every country, but Mongolia was a special case, or that's what I understood at GUADEC last year. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME annual report
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 15:32 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi all, > > In secret, for several weeks around the end of the year, myself, Quim > Gil, Davyd Madeley, Glynn Foster and a few other people worked on an > annual report for the foundation, which would cover all the major > projects that the GNOME project was involved in as well as the areas > that the foundation was working on developing the project. > > I'm pleased to finally release the results of that now to the > membership. We wanted to wait until everyone who was getting a hard copy > of the report received it before publishing it more widely. We printed a > small number of copies, which we will be sending out to anyone who > donates over $100 to the foundation this year (shameless plug: > http://www.gnome.org/friends/) as well as representatives on the > advisory board and other major supporters of the foundation. > > So without further ado, welcome to the GNOME annual report 2006! > it looks great, but I miss mentions to local movements, like the hackers meetings at Chile and Holland (IIRC), the GUADEC-ES, the addition of Mongolia to the GNOME map, etc. Not sure if you want to go to that level of detail, but it would be great to also mention these local efforts. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Research groups and the GNOME project
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 20:20 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 16:44 +, Alvaro del Castillo wrote: > > > Right now I am working in the University Rey Juan Carlos and we are > > working hard researching how free software is developed. > > By the way, I can vouch for the extreme jaw-dropping coolness of the > work of Álvaro and his group. Their research results have been *really* > interesting! > yeah, I can also, not because I've used their results, but because their team is composed of some of the most involved people in the Free Software community in Spain. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
(not yet another) survey
Hi Some people I know very well from the Spanish free software community, and which are now involved in university, have asked me to forward the below announcement, to ask people to participate on a survey. It's not yet another survey, it is one in a series of projects from that university to study how free software works, which I think is interesting for GNOME. They have already done some GNOME studies, for instance: http://libresoft.urjc.es/Papers/index_html http://libresoft.dat.escet.urjc.es/cvsanal/gnome2-cvs/ Find below the official announcement, I'd be grateful if you could do the survey. Dear FLOSS developer, MERIT at the University of Maastricht along with the University Rey Juan Carlos (Madrid) are studying how developers contribute code to Free / Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) projects. This is an extension of our previous research projects such as flossproject.org, flosspols.org, flossworld.org, and libresoft.urjc.es. In this study, we are looking for survey respondents like you, who contribute to at least one of a small number of projects that we have selected for the study. Therefore, we would like to ask you to participate in a small survey and to fill in our questionnaire, which you will find online at http://libresoft.urjc.es:/Survey/ To fill in the survey takes not more than 10 minutes of your time. Of course, all personal information will be kept strictly confidential, no personal information will be revealed to third parties, and the information obtained will be properly aggregated and anonymized so that no data about named individuals will be published. We also would like to point out that this study has only academic and no commercial purpose, and the resulting analysis will be freely available. Rishab Ghosh ,MERIT (Board member, Open Source Initiative) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruediger Glott, MERIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gregorio Robles, URJC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona, URJC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GUADEC/GNOME build machines
sorry for the late answer... On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 13:54 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm mailing the foundation list to discuss an EXCITING NEW opportunity > for the GNOME project ! No wait, really ! > > A short recap: every year for GUADEC, there's always a terrible > confusion about what to do to get enough machines for the streaming. > This year, the decision was made to buy four cheap machines for this > purpose, and they were used in this capacity. > > This also means that, for next GUADEC, these four machines will again be > available if they survive the coming year. The only thing that would > need to be done is for the GUADEC budget to cover their shipping. > shipping to some countries might be more expensive than buying new machines in those countries. I guess within Europe there shouldn't be too much problem, but just in case, it's worth checking the prices ASAP. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Local user groups
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 14:12 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > El dv 11 de 08 del 2006 a les 13:46 +0200, en/na Rodrigo Moya va > escriure: > > > > My question is: how we can have marketing materials easily? > > > > > that is also my question :) > > What do you have in mind when you talk about 'marketing materials'? The > answer possibly differs depending on the materials. Stickers, t-shirts, > banners etc have different problematics. > I was mainly thinking about t-shirts, stickers and CDs. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Local user groups
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 17:33 -0400, Felipe Barros S. wrote: > Hello Rodrigo: > > You know about the meeting that GNOME Chile have in November, one day of > the "VII Encuentro Linux" is for "día de GNOME". > > Our plan is to invite one or two "Rock Star" to talk with us :) > > In this moment we are quoting to print some stickers and other stuffs, > Fernando and others brought some t-shirts from the GUADEC. All those > things we hope to have in order to give to our attenders. > > My question is: how we can have marketing materials easily? > that is also my question :) > or is possible for the invited "Rock Star" to bring some gift below his > arm? ;) > if possible, yeah, that would solve the problem I guess -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Local user groups
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 12:47 -0400, Fernando San Martín Woerner wrote: > Hi all: > > In GUADEC i've been talking with people from the board and from other > local groups, as we talk there, local groups are a good chance to do > advocacy and get more users for GNOME and why not some hackers too. > > By today we have a good community, GUADEC is good example for this, but > also there are other ways to spread the word around the world. > In Chile we started small meetings to train GNOME developers (Reuniones > de formación de desarrolladores de GNOME), our first goal was to train a > small group of developers to get a good level using GNOME platform, so > then we can invite some "Rock star" hacker to do some more advanced > talks. After two or three meetings we receive invitations from > universities asking us to give some basic talks to their students and > user groups, after two years we've been talking about GNOME in more than > 16 meetings, some of them with more than 100 people in the room, and > still we get invitations to give talks. A lot of those talks are just > for users but every advocacy is a good effort to bring more users to the > desktop. > > The same idea is doing by GNOME-Es at spain, so this is an invitation to > local groups to get organized and look forward how they can do advocacy > in their countries, every single step is one step forward to the same goal. > one thing that would be cool would be to have marketing materials easily. It is a bit sad to say 'no, sorry, no t-shirts' to people asking for some at conferences -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting 2006/Feb/15
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 11:45 +, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > Axis Informática > > > > > > * We are fine with giving them permission to sell products with the > > GNOME Logo. > > > > * Need to find the contract that we got Killermundi to sign, so that > > we can use the same contract for Axis Informática. > > > > * Let's give the cut to GNOME Hispano; this is a good way to fund > > local groups. > > Just wanted to say that I saw some of their shirts/designs at OSWC - they > look absolutely brilliant. I want one. Or a few. And some female cuts for > Pia. I hope they're prepared for some international orders. ;-) > some Chilean people already asked, and we asked killermundi, who says no problem from their part. The problem is the cost of an international parcel. Don't remember the exact price but it made the t-shirt cost its weight in gold :) > (Perhaps we could get them to provide a stall at GUADEC. Quim?) > we also talked with killermundi about them doing special t-shirts for special events, so if you want, we can contact them for doing GUADEC t-shirts with whatever design we come up with. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting 2006/Feb/15
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 14:24 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > Axis Informática > > > * We are fine with giving them permission to sell products with the > GNOME Logo. > does this mean we can give them the 'go ahead' for adding the products to their site? > * Need to find the contract that we got Killermundi to sign, so that > we can use the same contract for Axis Informática. > we didn't sign anything, should we? > * Let's give the cut to GNOME Hispano; this is a good way to fund > local groups. > yes, it's indeed a good way. It seems Killermundi is getting a lot of requests for t-shirts. And the money we'll get from there will be used, probably, to send Spanish-speaking people to GUADEC (specially from Latin America). -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Lyon for GUADEC 2007
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 13:39 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On 4 Feb 2006, at 19:43, David Neary wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been working (with others) on the possibility of a Lyon > > candidature for GUADEC 2007 for the past few weeks with David Odin > > and some of the gnome-fr board. I'm happy to announce that Lyon is > > a definite candidate for the conference, and I'm looking forward to > > knowing the schedule for official submissions. > > Ooh, UK v. France... it's the Olympic bid all over again :) > IIRC, someone mentioned Vilnius, in Lithuania, as a candidate also some time ago. Any news on that? -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Endorsements one by one [was Re: Endorsing David Neary]
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 07:46 -0700, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-01-12 at 13:03 +0100, Quim Gil wrote:
>
> > Showing the percentage of participation at any time may help increasing
> > the percentage of vote at the end of the election, and it's a harmless
> > data by itself.
>
> As you said in the first part of the sentence, publishing the data may
> change voting behaviour, ("not voting" is also a voting behaviour.) THat
> by itself should tell us that unless the rules specifically state that
> every 24 hours the number of voters is published (or something along
> those lines) those numbers should also stay secret.
also, media starts counting votes, at least from what I know, after the
voting period is over.
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Re: Some perspective on how unimportant the board currently is.
On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 19:09 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 12:12 -0300, Fernando San MartÃn Woerner wrote: > > Also i want to remember GNOME Hackers training meetings in Chile as for > > us is very hard to get some core hacker from GNOME in our country we > > started a small meetings just to show how to be involved in GNOME, > > actually we've made more than 10 meetings in the last two years. Our > > main idea was to prepare a group of hackers to be ready when some core > > hacker like Federico will come to Chile, so they'll be ready to > > understand advanced knowledge, the idea has been changing and today > > Colleges and Universities are asking to GNOME Chile for dates to get a > > meeting in their campus, the next one will be in November. > > > > This kind of initiative should be supported by the Foundation and the > > board also could be replied arround the world, at least people from > > GNOME Hispano did it. > > So, sounds like you have a real requirement from the Foundation. What is > it that you need? Have you send the board a list of requirements or > funds that you need to do a more effective job? > > Half the time I heard people on IRC going 'I wish we had this...' or 'I > wish we had money so I could do this...' - but often those wishes never > make it back to the foundation board. Seriously people, if you have > ideas of how you could improve the world wide adoption of GNOME, please > yell out and suggest them. I think we would be in a much better state if > we had continuous streams of people sending email asking for X, Y and Z, > rather than the current board having to second guess everything. > > If you need funding for what you think to be an important project, ask. > If you need travel assistance to speak at an important conference, ask. > Just ask, it's not going to do any harm. We may not have the finances to > help everyone, but I'm sure that we'll make an effort for the important > things. > ok, so here is my petition :) for the hackers meetings in Spain (3 so far), it would be nice if we could have t-shirts, cd's, etc, to hand over to people showing up. I guess for Chile that would help also. Also, for the GUADEC-ES, it would be extraordinary to have the Foundation help us in looking for funding, because sometimes getting local-only companies' (which usually are small) sponsorship is quite hard, as it is to get sponsorship from big companies' franchises in Spain (IBM, Novell, Sun) "because they depend on the US main office to decide on this" or just don't see the benefit, for their local businesses, in sponsoring this kind of events. So, if possible, those two things would help a lot to the Spanish-based GNOME groups, because with more funding, we could bring more GNOME Hispano people from Latin America, and thus make it more international, rather than just Spanish people. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Changing the name of GUADEC
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:13 +0200, David Neary wrote: > I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many > reasons to do this, here are 5: > > 1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference > 2. No-one knows what it means, which means the first question people ask > isn't "when is it?" or "where is it?" or "who's going?" it's "what does > it mean?" > 3. It sucks. > 4. Do we really want to limit it to Europe? > E stands also for Earth :) -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 19:47 +0300, Žygimantas Beručka wrote: > Kt, 2005 08 11 10:28 -0400, Richard M. Stallman rašė: > > and government. As of speaking of my country, Ubuntu is doing a great > > job in private sector here, but we need publicity to make it happen in > > education and/or government. > > > > With disappointment, I report that Ubuntu includes some non-free software. > > It would be better to promote Debian, which at least does not include > > non-free software even though their site distributes some. > > Even better would be Ututo, which is 100% free software. > > I'm not saying that we are promoting Ubuntu. The reason I have mentioned > Ubuntu here, is that it is one of the most polished distributions > shipping GNOME as the desktop. Due to its marketing policy, it is self > promoting distribution, Ubuntu are shipping live CDs together with > install CDs (heard something about virus, spyware free OS? whatever distro is being used/promoted in Lithuania, I myself would be really happy to see GUADEC there. Once we conquer Eastern Europe, Russia and Asia are very close :) -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Re: Barcelona report
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 13:07 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > > En/na Rodrigo Moya ha escrit: > > > that would probably cover the 'beginners track', since I guess most > > beginners will be from Barcelona and other parts of Spain, so giving > > them a full track of beginners-oriented talks, in Spanish, should make > > all those people happy, right? > > Definitely. I think the people around GNOME-es/Hispano could start > defining this, assuming that there will be space enough during the weekend. > just let us know when the availability is confirmed, and we can start defining the talks for that kind of audience. Not sure if we'll want also a CFP for this, since I guess what we want is to have tutorials for wannabe-hackers/contributors, right? > We could include/combine a showcase of the (great) work done by the > Catalan translation team, offering localized versions of functionalities > and applications withouth equivalent in proprietary software. This > should attract local people and organizations. Adding a workshop on > translation focused to new volunteers, an install party/workshop and a > BOF about creating a Catalan GNOME group, we get a very attractive track > for local beginners & insiders. > that is a very good idea. We could have programming tutorials and translation/LUG workgroups. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Re: Barcelona report
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 18:07 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > For instance, I'd like to mobilize the local LUGs to organize > GNOME-based install parties, introductory workshops, etc. The GNOME > Hispano people are interested converging with the GUADEC. The weekend is > perfect for this, non-European people arriving later and/or jetlagged > are not essential for these activities. > that would probably cover the 'beginners track', since I guess most beginners will be from Barcelona and other parts of Spain, so giving them a full track of beginners-oriented talks, in Spanish, should make all those people happy, right? -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [guadec-list] Re: Barcelona report
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 11:29 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > > Also as far as I know there wasn't any non-userday tracks that where > > > consistently lacking participants, rather the opposite. > > > > Yes, they were very successful. We had an awesome line-up of talks! However, > > the view David is putting forward is not based on whether that model can be > > successful, it's whether we want to pursue that model at all... Is GUADEC > > meant to be a bunch of talks, or is it meant to be a whole lotta discussion > > and hacking? > > GUADEC is our only general-audience conference ... while I'm sure that > we could have an awesome event where the GNOME hackers get together and > talk and hack for a few days or longer, I don't think GUADEC is *just* > about this. (The Boston GNOME summit, by contrast, is designed as purely > a hacker get-together) > > Hacking sessions and detailed planning sessions aren't that interesting > to a general audience ... even an intensely technical general audience. > > I think we should expect that with the strong GNOME user community in > Spain we'll get even more people who are coming in, not interested > in say, whether we should ship gnome-sm-proxy in the next release, > but in getting a high-level picture of new and upcoming features > and technologies. In learning about where to start developing with > GNOME. In learning how to use GNOME in advanced ways. > both things can be parallel, with one room or two for general audience talks, and smaller rooms for planning sessions. I think both are compatible, and make both kind of people attending (general, hackers) take good advantage of GUADEC. -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
