Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2012-03-14 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Brian, On 12/14/2011 04:42 AM, Brian Cameron wrote: The board would like for the Foundation membership to help discuss and decide whether it makes sense to move forward with having a Desktop Summit. Although the Desktop Summit survey results indicated a strong majority were supportive of the

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-19 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 12/14/2011 09:34 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: First things first, I'll be happy if we have a GUADEC or a desktop summit, both events rocked hard. My preference would be for the former, just on the personal belief that I end up doing so much extra work for the KDE desktop and get virtually

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-19 Thread john palmieri
Hi Richard, Henry Holtzman at the Media Lab and Walter Bender has helped us in the past. They have work with the registrar's office at http://web.mit.edu/registrar/www/schedules/ though that link seems outdated. This one seems to be the correct one -

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-19 Thread Luc Pionchon
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 08:49, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.comwrote: On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 20:25 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: I likely going to GUADEC as I can meet *only* GNOME focused people. With not having a GUADEC each year, I only meet GNOME people every other year I must

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-18 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 20:25 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: I likely going to GUADEC as I can meet *only* GNOME focused people. With not having a GUADEC each year, I only meet GNOME people every other year I must admit this sentiment resonated. I have nothing at all against KDE people — I've met

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-17 Thread Richard Stallman
Thanks. Now I know enough to raise the issue on Monday. If room booking only starts in March, maybe I can at least find out if it will be allowed. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-16 Thread Richard Hughes
On 14 December 2011 13:32, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote: Well, but let's not forget that the folks you explicitly list here are probably more on the side against the colocation than for it. At least of the one you named first I know that he is against the combined conf. And I

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-16 Thread Richard Stallman
We used to get free rooms (~4) at MIT on Columbus day long weekend. I will inquire. What sort of rooms? Large lecture halls? Ordinary classrooms? Does anyone recall the room numbers from a previous time? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-16 Thread Richard Stallman
Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were they? If I get the room numbers, I will know exactly what to

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Richard, Le vendredi 16 décembre 2011, à 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman a écrit : Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-16 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building if we have the choice... When it was in the Stata Center, which rooms were

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-16 Thread john palmieri
2011/12/16 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the     Stata Center was a better location in the past than the Economics Building     if we have the choice...

Re: Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-16 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Can we have next one in Toronto please? :D I can run. On 12/16/2011 12:45 PM, john palmieri wrote: 2011/12/16 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org: On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 10:39 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: Thanks so much for offering to look into this, Richard! I hear that the Stata

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-16 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me a écrit: For instance, having Plumbers conference with a desktop conference would be quite interesting I think considering the direction we are moving towards. A vertical platform, this might be more interesting. I couldn't agree more, Sri. Thank you for

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-15 Thread Richard Stallman
What did the previous MIT contact do? Maybe I can get it done. How about co-location with a Linux Foundation conference? One major drawback of this is that it would inevitably lead GNOME to support the practice of covering up the existence of the GNU system. -- Dr Richard Stallman

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-15 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 16:41 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: What did the previous MIT contact do? Maybe I can get it done. We used to get free rooms (~4) at MIT on Columbus day long weekend. It would be great if you can get done it. -- Germán Póo-Caamaño http://people.gnome.org/~gpoo/

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-15 Thread john palmieri
2011/12/14 Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com wrote: Over the years, GNOME community events have grown in frequency, size and the expectations of hosting professional quality events.  It is a challenge for a

Boston Summit logistics (was Re: Desktop Summit Planning)

2011-12-15 Thread Karen Sandler
On Thu, December 15, 2011 5:28 pm, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 16:41 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: What did the previous MIT contact do? Maybe I can get it done. We used to get free rooms (~4) at MIT on Columbus day long weekend. It would be great if you can get done

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Andy Wingo
Hi Brian, A point of clarification: On Wed 14 Dec 2011 04:42, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com writes: 3. The GNOME community has been having trouble finding volunteers to help make events successful lately. You mention that we had a problem with this in the last Desktop Summit. Has

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Kühl
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com wrote: 3. The GNOME community has been having trouble finding volunteers to   help make events successful lately.  Some people like Dave Neary,   Lennart Poettering, and Ekaterina Gerasimova did a great job   volunteering

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Brian, On 12/14/2011 04:42 AM, Brian Cameron wrote: At the October 26th IRC meeting, Jon McCann spoke about his concerns about the Desktop Summit.[2] At the November 23rd meeting, Dave Neary (who was also very involved in making the past Desktop Summit happen), highlighted that there are

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 13.12.11 21:42, Brian Cameron (brian.came...@oracle.com) wrote: Heya, 1. It subtracts momentum from the GNOME brand and community. With GNOME 3 to focus on, the community needs to more focus on making GNOME 3 a success, less on collaboration. I ran the paper committee in

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Patricia Santana Cruz
Aloha, 2011/12/14 Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de On Tue, 13.12.11 21:42, Brian Cameron (brian.came...@oracle.com) wrote: Heya, 1. It subtracts momentum from the GNOME brand and community. With GNOME 3 to focus on, the community needs to more focus on making GNOME 3 a

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Allan Day
Hi Dave, On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Brian, On 12/14/2011 04:42 AM, Brian Cameron wrote: At the October 26th IRC meeting, Jon McCann spoke about his concerns about the Desktop Summit.[2] At the November 23rd meeting, Dave Neary (who was also

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Piñeiro
On 12/14/2011 04:42 AM, Brian Cameron wrote: 1. To not have a large combined GNOME+KDE event, and to instead have a smaller Desktop Summit or focused hackfest(s) with a more clear agenda to work on specific and measurable collaborative tasks. GUADEC and Akademy would continue as

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:20:18AM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: You mention that we had a problem with this in the last Desktop Summit. Has this been a problem in other events as well? The board specifically requested GNOME-NL to hold GUADEC. -- Regards, Olav

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 08:02:32PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:20:18AM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: You mention that we had a problem with this in the last Desktop Summit. Has this been a problem in other events as well? The board specifically requested GNOME-NL to

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:42:28PM -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: The biggest complaints about the Desktop Summit seem to be: I don't want to miss out on GUADEC. And a Desktop Summit is not a GUADEC. In discussion, the following options have been suggested as ways to improve the event. 1. To

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Brian Cameron
Foundation: A point of clarification: On Wed 14 Dec 2011 04:42, Brian Cameronbrian.came...@oracle.com writes: 3. The GNOME community has been having trouble finding volunteers to help make events successful lately. You mention that we had a problem with this in the last Desktop

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Gil Forcada
El dt 13 de 12 de 2011 a les 21:42 -0600, en/na Brian Cameron va escriure: GNOME Foundation Members: () 3. The GNOME community has been having trouble finding volunteers to help make events successful lately. Some people like Dave Neary, Lennart Poettering, and Ekaterina

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 17:08 -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: [...] Yes, as you might remember, we have had difficulties organizing the Boston Summit this past year, ending up relocating the event to Montreal rather last minute. Also, most of the volunteers who have made GNOME.Asia successful the

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: Over the years, GNOME community events have grown in frequency, size and the expectations of hosting professional quality events. It is a challenge for a volunteer community to keep up with consistently year after

Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-13 Thread Brian Cameron
GNOME Foundation Members: At two previous GNOME Foundation IRC meetings, there has been discussion about how to approach the Desktop Summit[1] going forward. At the October 26th IRC meeting, Jon McCann spoke about his concerns about the Desktop Summit.[2] At the November 23rd meeting, Dave