Re: [OT] Re: You logo
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 22:38 +0100, Magdalen Berns wrote: Let's be real: this is pure drama I believe you're being pretty rude in reducing other people's distress to pure drama. Please be respectful, in the same way as you expect others to be. Claudio ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
[OT] Re: You logo
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 07:03 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: You're consistently calling out people on their imprecision when using Linux instead of GNU/Linux, yet you seem to often spell GNOME in an incorrect manner. GNOME is our trademark and it's spelled in caps. I know you usually pay attention to details, so I'd appreciate if you could pay attention to this one as well. Thank you. I will try to remember. Note that I'm not the only person who has posted messages saying Gnome. Yeah, but you are the only person on this list constantly requesting to please put a GNU/ prefix in front of the word Linux no matter what the actual topic of the corresponding thread is, creating uninteresting noise for basically everybody on this mailing list who know already anyway except for the original poster and maybe two more folks. Unfortunately your on-topic postings can be quite interesting and insightful, so I don't want to ignore just all of your emails. But as you expect others to be highly interested in spelling details (you are very free to disagree on my choice of words here), you might be expected to put in the same amount of efforts. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [OT] Re: You logo
On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 16:50 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Fri, 2015-04-03 at 07:03 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: You're consistently calling out people on their imprecision when using Linux instead of GNU/Linux, yet you seem to often spell GNOME in an incorrect manner. GNOME is our trademark and it's spelled in caps. I know you usually pay attention to details, so I'd appreciate if you could pay attention to this one as well. Thank you. I will try to remember. Note that I'm not the only person who has posted messages saying Gnome. Yeah, but you are the only person on this list constantly requesting to please put a GNU/ prefix in front of the word Linux no matter what the actual topic of the corresponding thread is, creating uninteresting noise for basically everybody on this mailing list who know already anyway except for the original poster and maybe two more folks. Unfortunately your on-topic postings can be quite interesting and insightful, so I don't want to ignore just all of your emails. But as you expect others to be highly interested in spelling details (you are very free to disagree on my choice of words here), you might be expected to put in the same amount of efforts. I've had a rather short discussion with the list moderators, and, when I mentioned that we should filter out mails containing clippy-style I think you mean GNU/Linux, I was told: I'm strongly against censoring people's mails. I would argue that one's freedom stops where other people's start. I shouldn't have to put with this type of trolling on GNOME lists. So I'm leaving this list. Cheers ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [OT] Re: You logo
On 3 April 2015 at 15:57, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: So I'm leaving this list. Me too. If I was to troll people about the same uninteresting thing again and again and again I would either get moderated or banned. If anyone wants to reply, please reply to my personal email address. Richard ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [OT] Re: You logo
Let's be real: this is pure drama and it is more than slightly ironic that the original topic of this thread has been completely derailed by those seeking to censor off-topic discussion... For the record, I agree 100% with the moderators - that censorship of any card carrying member would be totally unacceptable (especially on this list). Magdalen On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Jim Campbell jcampb...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 April 2015 at 15:57, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: So I'm leaving this list. Me too. If I was to troll people about the same uninteresting thing again and again and again I would either get moderated or banned. If anyone wants to reply, please reply to my personal email address. Richard If RMS were to say, for example, Here's where you can find information about using the GNOME trademark . . . oh, and by the way, please refer to operating systems that use the Linux kernel as GNU/Linux systems . . . I don't think there's anyone on this list who would take issue with it. And if RMS can't contribute meaningfully to the thread, but still wants to emphasize that people call it GNU/Linux, I think it's fine for him to reply off-list to the person who sent the message, and say, Kindly call it GNU/Linux. I think we're all okay with that, too. Even if we're not okay with it, it's RMS' perogative to do so. Otherwise, this is a forum for discussing matters of the GNOME Foundation. We join this list to talk about the Foundation, and probably not to talk about other things. If people repeatedly want to talk about other things, and not talk about the GNOME Foundation, I think it's appropriate for list admins to moderate those messages. Jim ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [OT] Re: You logo
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 April 2015 at 15:57, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: So I'm leaving this list. Me too. If I was to troll people about the same uninteresting thing again and again and again I would either get moderated or banned. If anyone wants to reply, please reply to my personal email address. Richard If RMS were to say, for example, Here's where you can find information about using the GNOME trademark . . . oh, and by the way, please refer to operating systems that use the Linux kernel as GNU/Linux systems . . . I don't think there's anyone on this list who would take issue with it. And if RMS can't contribute meaningfully to the thread, but still wants to emphasize that people call it GNU/Linux, I think it's fine for him to reply off-list to the person who sent the message, and say, Kindly call it GNU/Linux. I think we're all okay with that, too. Even if we're not okay with it, it's RMS' perogative to do so. Otherwise, this is a forum for discussing matters of the GNOME Foundation. We join this list to talk about the Foundation, and probably not to talk about other things. If people repeatedly want to talk about other things, and not talk about the GNOME Foundation, I think it's appropriate for list admins to moderate those messages. Jim ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [OT] Re: You logo
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com wrote: Let's be real: this is pure drama and it is more than slightly ironic that the original topic of this thread has been completely derailed by those seeking to censor off-topic discussion... For the record, I agree 100% with the moderators - that censorship of any card carrying member would be totally unacceptable (especially on this list). This is not censorship. We're not restricting anybody's ideas here. This is just enforcing the rules of the list. The subsequent responses after Richard's are from those who are upset that rules are not being followed. There is a certain tolerance when people do that, but when it is consistent over a period of years. Tolerance erodes quickly and when not resolved, people leave the list. Please. No more replies to this thread. I have already invited the original poster to talk with the board after he initially posted and we have an active conversation already. The matter is being resolved at the right level. sri ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
