Re: [guadec-list] Dates & format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced

2010-10-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Olav Vitters wrote:
> 1. Conflicts with the schedule for GNOME 3.2 (feature, API, docs are @
> Aug 15, UI one week later). Basically the proposed freezes are right
> after the desktop summit. There is not much that we can do regarding
> scheduling GNOME as GUADEC has consistently been later and later in the
> year.
> We need a shorter release cycle for GNOME 3.2 (release date is proposed
> for Sep 28), so not sure what can be done. Generally there is almost no
> development activity during GUADEC.
> Note that above dates are still not final.

Thanks for the feedback, Olav. Indeed, this is a point I had not
considered, and it is an important one. I have forwarded it on to the
desktop summit team list for discussion.

> 2. Conference start on a Saturday is I think unusual for GUADEC? I
> thought it always was a weekday. Not sure if everything can be ready in
> such a short timeframe.

This is essentially the same format we had in Gran Canaria, and is now
confirmed. This was partly the university's availability, and partly a
preference of the local team (as Johannes says, this was discussed
before I got involved).

On getting the venue ready, we have a large & motivated local team, and
we can get into the venue on Friday night, and from 7am on Saturday
morning, so we might be OK, if we are well prepared.

Cheers,
Dave.


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Re: [guadec-list] Dates & format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced

2010-10-12 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

> 1. Conflicts with the schedule for GNOME 3.2 (feature, API, docs are @
> Aug 15, UI one week later). Basically the proposed freezes are right
> after the desktop summit. There is not much that we can do regarding
> scheduling GNOME as GUADEC has consistently been later and later in the
> year.
> We need a shorter release cycle for GNOME 3.2 (release date is proposed
> for Sep 28), so not sure what can be done. Generally there is almost no
> development activity during GUADEC.
> Note that above dates are still not final.

Well, the desktop-summit dates were basically depending on the vanue. As
the german summer-break starts later than in most other countries the
university isn't available at other times. Might be useful to change the
release cycle dates a bit if possible.

> 2. Conference start on a Saturday is I think unusual for GUADEC? I
> thought it always was a weekday. Not sure if everything can be ready in
> such a short timeframe.

We had a long discussion that basically broke down to the KDE people
wanting to start on Saturday and the GNOME people prefering a week-day.
There are pros and cons for both so we finally settled on the timetable we
have now. It might be better explained in the meeting minutes.

Regards,
Johannes

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Re: [guadec-list] Dates & format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced

2010-10-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:30:49AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi Gil,
> 
> Gil Forcada wrote:
> > So criticism was expected? I understood as a set-in-stone decision :)
> 
> Feedback was expected... some of this *is* set in stone, but I
> definitely prefer hearing concerns now, so that we can try to address them.

2 points:

1. Conflicts with the schedule for GNOME 3.2 (feature, API, docs are @
Aug 15, UI one week later). Basically the proposed freezes are right
after the desktop summit. There is not much that we can do regarding
scheduling GNOME as GUADEC has consistently been later and later in the
year.
We need a shorter release cycle for GNOME 3.2 (release date is proposed
for Sep 28), so not sure what can be done. Generally there is almost no
development activity during GUADEC.
Note that above dates are still not final.

2. Conference start on a Saturday is I think unusual for GUADEC? I
thought it always was a weekday. Not sure if everything can be ready in
such a short timeframe.

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Regards,
Olav
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