On 21 May 2014 12:24, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> Sure, those of us who are not currently paid can speak up on mailing lists,
> but we're (mostly) roundly ignored.
I think this is a classic case of "code speaks" -- i.e. if you're
willing to spend the time writing the feature and maintaining the code
f
On 21 May 2014 10:14, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Suggesting that we don't have GNOME's best interests at heart is
> just hurtful, and incorrect.
Agreed. I've never once been told by anyone at Red Hat to do something
that I didn't think was in the best interests of GNOME as a project.
Richard
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On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 07:24 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> Yes, you're part of the community. But you're being paid by a large
> corporation to work on it, and as a result are beholden to them at
> least as much as to the rest of the community. Red Hat is not the only
> thing that matters in the GNOM
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> Do you have examples of situations where Red Hat (or any other company or
> corporation for that matter) has trumped what most of the community
> wants/needs? If you do, what do you think the board could/should do about
> it?
>
I presume that
Do you have examples of situations where Red Hat (or any other company or
corporation for that matter) has trumped what most of the community
wants/needs? If you do, what do you think the board could/should do about
it?
2014-05-21 13:24 GMT+02:00 Emily Gonyer :
> Yes, you're part of the community
I'm not going to quote the emails about company control and Red Hat's
contributions in particular as I think it's gotten fairly heated and my
thoughts are more easily generally expressed.
I think we need both to be successful - companies that are invested in
GNOME technologies who are users an
On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 07:15 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> Of course people should be able to be paid to work on free software.
> That's great. But when one or two large companies pay the majority of
> developers, it becomes hard to argue that it is still a 'community
> led' project, let alone one wh
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Emily Gonyer wrote:
>>
>> Of course people should be able to be paid to work on free software.
>> That's great. But when one or two large companies pay the majority of
>> developers, it becomes hard to
Yes, you're part of the community. But you're being paid by a large
corporation to work on it, and as a result are beholden to them at
least as much as to the rest of the community. Red Hat is not the only
thing that matters in the GNOME world. Or, it shouldn't be. But for
the last several years, R
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> Of course people should be able to be paid to work on free software.
> That's great. But when one or two large companies pay the majority of
> developers, it becomes hard to argue that it is still a 'community
> led' project, let alone one wh
Of course people should be able to be paid to work on free software.
That's great. But when one or two large companies pay the majority of
developers, it becomes hard to argue that it is still a 'community
led' project, let alone one which is independent. And that's where
GNOME is right now.
On We
On Tue, 2014-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> In regards to paid and unpaid contributors to GNOME, I honestly feel
> that unpaid contributions should be favored. I realize that is
> probably unlikely to occur, but it ought to. Why? Because GNOME is, at
> least in theory, a free software
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Why? Because GNOME is, at
least in theory, a free software 'project'. As such
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova
wrote:
> I would like to point out that there has been outreach to the projects
> which were forked from GNOME, but with poor results. I encourage you
> to address the issues that you see regardless of whether you join the
> board or not.
Yes
On 2014-05-20 09:49, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
On 20 May 2014 14:30, Emily Gonyer wrote:
In regards to paid and unpaid contributors to GNOME, I honestly feel
that unpaid contributions should be favored. I realize that is
probably unlikely to occur, but it ought to. Why? Because GNOME is, at
le
On 20 May 2014 14:30, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> In regards to paid and unpaid contributors to GNOME, I honestly feel
> that unpaid contributions should be favored. I realize that is
> probably unlikely to occur, but it ought to. Why? Because GNOME is, at
> least in theory, a free software 'project'. A
On 2014-05-20 09:30, Emily Gonyer wrote:
In regards to paid and unpaid contributors to GNOME, I honestly feel
that unpaid contributions should be favored. I realize that is
probably unlikely to occur, but it ought to. Why? Because GNOME is, at
least in theory, a free software 'project'. As such,
In regards to paid and unpaid contributors to GNOME, I honestly feel
that unpaid contributions should be favored. I realize that is
probably unlikely to occur, but it ought to. Why? Because GNOME is, at
least in theory, a free software 'project'. As such, it is supposedly
run, and worked on largely
"On 20 May 2014 12:10, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova
> wrote:
>> Hi Emily,
>>
>> On 17 May 2014 19:42, Emily Gonyer wrote:
>>> Name: Emily Gonyer
>>> Email: emilyyr...@gmail.com
>>> Affiliation: None
>>>
>>> Dear Foundation,
>>>
>>> I'm interested i
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova
wrote:
> Hi Emily,
>
> On 17 May 2014 19:42, Emily Gonyer wrote:
>> Name: Emily Gonyer
>> Email: emilyyr...@gmail.com
>> Affiliation: None
>>
>> Dear Foundation,
>>
>> I'm interested in serving on GNOME's board of directors for the first
>> t
Hi Emily,
On 17 May 2014 19:42, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> Name: Emily Gonyer
> Email: emilyyr...@gmail.com
> Affiliation: None
>
> Dear Foundation,
>
> I'm interested in serving on GNOME's board of directors for the first
> time, in order to help steer GNOME in a more open and community led
> directi
Name: Emily Gonyer
Email: emilyyr...@gmail.com
Affiliation: None
Dear Foundation,
I'm interested in serving on GNOME's board of directors for the first
time, in order to help steer GNOME in a more open and community led
direction. It is my opinion that GNOME has strode too far towards a
corporate
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