Re: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

2012-08-26 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 08/24/2012 06:19 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:


Andreas, given that you're the president and the person that assembles
the agenda: would it be reasonable for you to send it to
foundation-announce after editing the private items? do other board
members and foundation members have any objection?


No objections from me. Sounds like a good idea.
- Andreas
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Re: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

2012-08-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 24 août 2012, à 20:07 +0200, Tobias Mueller a écrit :
 Hello :)
 
 On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:19:00PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
  On 24 August 2012 16:09, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
   Actually, even more useful would be notice of the agenda for board 
   meetings
   to foundation-list a couple of days before they happen. Would that be
   possible?
  
  [...] do other board
  members and foundation members have any objection?
  
 No. I really like the idea of having a public agenda. That would enable 
 people to participate more closely. If we could make MoinMoin render 
 private items only to those who are supposed to read them (maybe we find 
 someone to write a MoinMoin plugin..?) we would be probably be able to 
 expose the Agenda and the Minutes pretty much directly after the 
 meetings. But well, as that's likely not going to happen, we probably 
 will have to send the Agenda (in what ever state it will be) around 
 manually.

A long time ago, we used to have a wiki page for the public agenda, and
a wiki page for the private agenda, that was also including (via a
wiki command) the public agenda. So for the board, it was no additional
work.

Vincent

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Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

2012-08-24 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
wiki: https://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20120713

= Minutes for Meeting of July 13, 2012 =

== Next Meeting ==

 July 24, 2012

== Attending ==

 * Bastien Nocera
 * Brian Cameron
 * Emmanuele Bassi
 * Germán Póo-Caamaño (late: 1 hour)
 * Karen Sandler
 * Rosanna Yuen
 * Ryan Lortie
 * Shaun !McCance
 * Stormy Peters
 * Seif Lotfy
 * Joanmarie Diggs

=== Regrets ===

=== Missing ===

== Board Meeting Agenda ==

 * GNOME.Asia
   * Report from Max on GNOME.Asia:
* Coordinated with GUADEC for sponsorship.
* Create the process for GNOME.Asia summit, not only check list,
the next organizer will know the order to organize the summit.
* Beijing / Hong Kong / Taiwan get together, face to face to chat
and meeting.
* Beijing would like to bid for GNOME.Asia 2013.
* Get local sponsorship from Hong Kong.
* Hong Kong team try to build GNOME Users Group with these days.
* Create Speaker Information package.
* Hong Kong Team and staff love GNOME.Asia.
* What could be improved:
 * Start organizing more early -- suggest a board member work
together with GNOME.Asia for next year.
 * BoF not plan very well.  -- Need do more next year.
 * GNOME.Asia blog.
 * Get more people involved GNOME.Asia.
   * Brian has been the Board member involved in the organization
committee, but he is stepping down.
   * The board needs to identify a new person to work with the
GNOME.Asia organization.
 * '''ACTION''': Tobias - To step up to replace Brian as the
contact between the Board and GNOME.Asia.

 * Advisory Board
   * There has only been 1 Advisory Board meeting in 2012, and 3
meetings in 2011. Fewest number of meetings since 2005.
   * How to improve the Advisory Board?
 * Improve attendance from the Advisory Board members
 * Karen has been working on an Agenda for the Advisory Board
meeting at GUADEC
 * Karen has been discussing with the Advisory Board members about
topics to be added to the agenda
   * Last year the agenda was finalized the day before the Advisory
Board meeting.
   * Lots of complex, high level, controversial topics that everyone
cared about.
   * Should we open the Advisory Board meeting's floor with companies
that may be interested/provide value to the Advisory Board?
   * Advisory Board fees may be too high for smaller companies.
 * Should the fees be more flexible? Or staggered?
   * Ideas for the Advisory Board meeting should be sent to the mailing list.

 * Annual Report
   * We have well passed the Annual Report deadline.
   * At the last meeting it seemed everything was pretty much done.
   * Andreas is working with Karen in finalizing the layout
   * Should be done by the weekend.

 * Events
   * GUADEC 2010
 * Reinout van Schouwen contacted the board indicating that the
GUADEC 2010 (Den Haag) organizers were not fully compensated for
expenses.
 * The Board at the time authorized an additional compensation on
top of the one that was negotiated.
 * Due to a misunderstanding, the additional compensation that the
Foundation paid was smaller than the one proposed.
 * The Board has been contacted by Reinout van Schouwen, but
hasn't heard from the GUADEC 2010 local organizers.
 * '''ACTION''': Bastien - To contact the GUADEC 2010 organizers
to get further clarification on the discrepancy between agreed and
effective compensation.
   * GUADEC 2013 bidding process.
 * Ask for a proposal of intent by GUADEC's time.
 * Extend the deadline for the actual bid presentation and decision.
 * Joanie will draft a follow-up message to the GNOME community.
   * new plan: 2013 bidders should submit an intent to bid.
 * '''ACTION''': Joanie - To submit the draft for the GUADEC 2013
bid announcement and plan to board-list.
   * GUADEC 2012
 * Board meeting on July 24th.
   * Need an agenda for the meeting.
   * Board members should start bringing up topics for the
meeting, either on board-list or on the wiki
 * Advisory Board meeting on July 25th.
 * Should we do something special for the i18n team at GUADEC?
   * Suggestions include a special recognition at the AGM or a
thank you dinner.
   * Joanie and Karen contacted the i18n community reps for a
ballpark attendance
   * Still waiting for confirmation
   * Given the unknown attendance two weeks before GUADEC, the
Board should probably provide a fixed sponsorship
   * '''ACTION''': Joanie - To contact Petr Kovar to come up with
a plan for i18n.

== Completed Actions ==

 * Bastien - To update call numbers for new locations.
 * Bastien - To contact the gUPnP maintainers about the project web domain.
 * Joanie - Will look for a lunch venue / source for the AB meeting
because we will not have time to scope out the location upon arrival.
 * Karen - To follow up with EFF to find contractor for updating and
improving CiviCRM set up.
 * Karen - To send KDE board the draft for the joint release announcement.
 * Karen - To 

Re: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

2012-08-24 Thread Dave Neary


Hi Emmanuele,

Are you the secretary of the new board?

Is there any way to get the minutes out in a more timely manner, please? 
Hearing about things 5-6 weeks after the event isn't very useful.


Actually, even more useful would be notice of the agenda for board 
meetings to foundation-list a couple of days before they happen. Would 
that be possible?


Thanks,
Dave.

On 08/24/2012 05:01 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:

wiki: https://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20120713

= Minutes for Meeting of July 13, 2012 =


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Re: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

2012-08-24 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi Dave;

On 24 August 2012 16:09, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:

 Hi Emmanuele,

 Are you the secretary of the new board?

I am still the secretary, yes.

 Is there any way to get the minutes out in a more timely manner, please?

I described the minute-taking and publishing here:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-May/msg00072.html

 Hearing about things 5-6 weeks after the event isn't very useful.

I completely agree; the agenda is on the wiki before I send it to the
mailing list, but in the past couple of meetings its been edited for
removing private items until very late in the process - and GUADEC
happened in the middle, and we changed the day of the meeting from
Tuesday to Friday.

I will be able to resume sending the minutes for the previous meeting
before the following one now that the situation settled down.

thanks for keeping me in line. :-)

 Actually, even more useful would be notice of the agenda for board meetings
 to foundation-list a couple of days before they happen. Would that be
 possible?

that's an interesting proposal; we do have private items on the
agenda, and in some cases the agenda is updated at the very last
minute, so the public agenda may not be an accurate reflection of what
is going to be discussed at the actual meeting, especially if send a
couple of days before.

Andreas, given that you're the president and the person that assembles
the agenda: would it be reasonable for you to send it to
foundation-announce after editing the private items? do other board
members and foundation members have any objection?

ciao,
 Emmanuele.

 On 08/24/2012 05:01 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:

 wiki: https://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20120713

 = Minutes for Meeting of July 13, 2012 =


 snip

 --
 Dave Neary, Lyon, France
 Email: dne...@gnome.org
 Jabber: nea...@gmail.com





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Re: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

2012-08-24 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hello :)

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:19:00PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
 On 24 August 2012 16:09, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
  Actually, even more useful would be notice of the agenda for board meetings
  to foundation-list a couple of days before they happen. Would that be
  possible?
 
 [...] do other board
 members and foundation members have any objection?
 
No. I really like the idea of having a public agenda. That would enable 
people to participate more closely. If we could make MoinMoin render 
private items only to those who are supposed to read them (maybe we find 
someone to write a MoinMoin plugin..?) we would be probably be able to 
expose the Agenda and the Minutes pretty much directly after the 
meetings. But well, as that's likely not going to happen, we probably 
will have to send the Agenda (in what ever state it will be) around 
manually.

Cheers,
  Tobi
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