Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-12-03 Thread John (J5) Palmieri

On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 12:46 -0500, Adam Schreiber wrote:
 On Dec 3, 2007 12:41 PM, Og Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How about North Carolina? We have a great place with big name
  companies, schools and exciting people.
 
 Seconded.
 
 Adam Schreiber
 *cough*Clemson University, Clemson, SC*cough*

Would one of you guys like to put together a proposal including venue,
costs and dates?  It might be too late for this year since I am pretty
sure we can book the Stata Center in January but it would be nice to
have people talking to other venues and getting estimates so we have
backup plans and the ability to move fast when choosing a venue for the
year after.  Alternatively if you wanted to get your feet wet and start
small you could organize a smaller event and apply for funding from the
board.

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-12-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 14:53 +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
 
  Just a note... I can probably find some good space at the University of 
  Toronto (Canada) if it was ever required. It is generally easier for 
  folks in some countries (like China, and Russia) to get visas to come 
  here, and it is a cheap flight for Bostonians.  There is a Red Hat 
  office here, not sure about other GNOMEy elements.
  
 Sounds like a great idea to me. Do we have any numbers showing how many
 non US attendants were there at the previous Boston summits?

Don't think so.  But I'm all in favor of Boston Summit in Toronto too.

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Behdad Esfahbod

 But if you look, I asked for help about Boston Summit on the boston-social
 list as early as June:
 
   http://mail.gnome.org/archives/boston-social/2007-June/msg0.html
 
 and got no reply. I mailed at least three Boston residents directly and
 got no reply either. And I gave up and Jeff ended up doing it all the way
 from Australia. It was going well until the *reserved venue* got
 canceled...

Thanks for pointing that out - but I do want to stress again that Zana and
Owen saved the day when all else failed, and we should be very grateful to
them (not that you're forgetting them, I just wanted to say thanks again).

We have to wait until January to book the usual venue at MIT, so I hope J5
(elected or not - formalities, formalities) can adopt that task and pursue
it vigorously! :-)

- Jeff

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread Ghee Teo

 Part of the issue is the Boston Summit is always in Boston where as
 GUADEC can always get fresh enthusiastic teams to help out.  This is
 because in order to become a host city for GUADEC you already have to
 have a team assembled to make and sell a bid.  This is helped by the
 fact that host cities and organizers often see prestige in hosting
 GUADEC.
   
Have the board paused and thought why the Summit has to be Boston?
Is it because most hackers work around Boston? May be it was the case.
Is it still true now? Are there other locations that substantial  number of
hackers are around?

Just some thoughts :)

-Ghee
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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread John (J5) Palmieri

On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 17:44 +, Ghee Teo wrote:
  Part of the issue is the Boston Summit is always in Boston where as
  GUADEC can always get fresh enthusiastic teams to help out.  This is
  because in order to become a host city for GUADEC you already have to
  have a team assembled to make and sell a bid.  This is helped by the
  fact that host cities and organizers often see prestige in hosting
  GUADEC.

 Have the board paused and thought why the Summit has to be Boston?
 Is it because most hackers work around Boston? May be it was the case.
 Is it still true now? Are there other locations that substantial  number of
 hackers are around?
 
 Just some thoughts :)


It is called the Boston Summit. All joking asside cost is the main
issue.  The Boston Summit is supposed to be a more informal and
efficient gathering where GUADEC is the big bang go all out conference
so budgets are handled accordingly.  Having it in one city allows us to
theoretically keep costs down and make sure the quality is still there.
There is also historically a large contingent of GNOME hackers in
Boston.  We did have it in New York one year.  In fact that was the
first year I went since being in NY meant I just had to hop a couple of
trains to get there.  The venue was, shall we say, less than desirable,
though it worked out for me.  So there are always pros and cons to the
equation.  Right now I think the pros still outweigh the cons in keeping
it in Boston but who knows what the future brings.  If someone wanted to
organize in some other city and could put together a detailed proposal
there is nothing stopping the board from considering it.

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Ghee Teo

 Have the board paused and thought why the Summit has to be Boston? Is it
 because most hackers work around Boston? May be it was the case.

Because there's a critical mass of developers there -- most of both the Red
Hat and Novell desktop teams.

- Jeff

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh

 quote who=Ghee Teo
 
  Have the board paused and thought why the Summit has to be Boston? Is it
  because most hackers work around Boston? May be it was the case.
 
 Because there's a critical mass of developers there -- most of both the
 Red Hat and Novell desktop teams.

Dan Winship points out on IRC that while this was true when the Boston
Summit was created, there aren't a lot of Novell desktop hackers left in
Boston these days. Perhaps a roaming Columbus Day weekend conference (still
in the USA) would be a good thing?

- Jeff

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread Hubert Figuiere

On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 07:53 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 Perhaps a roaming Columbus Day weekend conference (still
 in the USA) would be a good thing?

s/USA/North America/ 

Canada do exist. And in that case Columbus day is Thanksgiving in Canada
so it might be wise to move the date a bit.

Hub

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Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]

2007-11-28 Thread David Bolter
Hi Jeff, all,

Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Jeff Waugh

   
 quote who=Ghee Teo

 
 Have the board paused and thought why the Summit has to be Boston? Is it
 because most hackers work around Boston? May be it was the case.
   
 Because there's a critical mass of developers there -- most of both the
 Red Hat and Novell desktop teams.
 

 Dan Winship points out on IRC that while this was true when the Boston
 Summit was created, there aren't a lot of Novell desktop hackers left in
 Boston these days. Perhaps a roaming Columbus Day weekend conference (still
 in the USA) would be a good thing?
   

Just a note... I can probably find some good space at the University of 
Toronto (Canada) if it was ever required. It is generally easier for 
folks in some countries (like China, and Russia) to get visas to come 
here, and it is a cheap flight for Bostonians.  There is a Red Hat 
office here, not sure about other GNOMEy elements.

cheers,
David
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