Alan was pointing out that you don't have permission to create a trademark
derivative from the owners of the Linux trademark.
According our legal advice, from Eben Moglen of the Software Freedom
Law Center, no special permission is needed for this.
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Le samedi 21 octobre 2006, à 22:44, Germán Poó Caamaño a écrit :
> In the last item of the agreement it says:
> "- In the very few cases where the operative systems need to be
> enumerated, we recommend the use of the formula "GNU/Linux (commonly
> called Linux)", that has already been used i.e. in
> You've mis-spelled "correctly" as commonly and ignored the view of the
> owners of the Linux kernel and the Linux mark. Unfortunate.
> With the name GNU/Linux we try to share the credit with the developers of
> Linux.
Alan was pointing out that you don't have permission to create a tr
You've mis-spelled "correctly" as commonly and ignored the view of the
owners of the Linux kernel and the Linux mark. Unfortunate.
We ought to heed the wishes of the developers of Linux, when
considering how to refer to their work, the Linux kernel. But this
doesn't apply to the GNU/Linux
> Ar Llu, 2006-10-23 am 15:45 +1000, ysgrifennodd Jeff Waugh:
> > where our documentation could be easily branded and changed by
> > distributors, that would be the place to mention specifics -- and those
> > specifics would be trademarks of distributions and operating
> > environments).
>
> Tha
Ar Llu, 2006-10-23 am 15:45 +1000, ysgrifennodd Jeff Waugh:
> where our documentation could be easily branded and changed by distributors,
> that would be the place to mention specifics -- and those specifics would be
> trademarks of distributions and operating environments).
Thats just a question
> - In the very few cases where the operative systems need to be enumerated,
> we recommend the use of the formula "GNU/Linux (commonly called Linux)",
> that has already been used i.e. in the release notes.
Quim mentioned, but didn't quite emphasise, that in the majority of cases we
*should avo
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 15:44 -0400, Germán Poó Caamaño wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 18:01 +0200, Quim Gil wrote:
> > [...]
> > - In the very few cases where the operative systems need to be
> > enumerated, we recommend the use of the formula "GNU/Linux (commonly
> > called Linux)", that has alread
I think the board made a good decision--it dealt with the problem at
hand, in a practical way.
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Alan Cox wrote:
>
> Can I urge translators to translate the phrase correctly, without
> the GNU/ Error and people to ignore the "official" policy in favour
> of correctness.
I am confident that the translators will read
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-lin
Ar Sad, 2006-10-21 am 18:01 +0200, ysgrifennodd Quim Gil:
> compatible with several operative systems, including GNU/Linux (commonly
You've mis-spelled "correctly" as commonly and ignored the view of the
owners of the Linux kernel and the Linux mark. Unfortunate.
Can I urge translators to transla
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 22:34 +0200, Quim Gil wrote:
> Sorry for my Spanglish. The conclusions are the same, though.
>
> > If you refer 'operative system' as 'operating system', it has only one
> > name: Linux.
>
> Others differ and we don't want to get into this old debate. See i.e. the
> beginn
Sorry for my Spanglish. The conclusions are the same, though.
> If you refer 'operative system' as 'operating system', it has only one name:
> Linux.
Others differ and we don't want to get into this old debate. See i.e. the
beginning of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
If you find a real exa
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 18:01 +0200, Quim Gil wrote:
> [...]
> - In the very few cases where the operative systems need to be
> enumerated, we recommend the use of the formula "GNU/Linux (commonly
> called Linux)", that has already been used i.e. in the release notes.
If you refer 'operative system'
The decision of the board was reported in the last minutes -
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-October/msg00016.html (at
the end):
* Where "Linux" is mentioned on the GNOME site, try to rephrase to avoid
mentioning any specific operating system. Where we refer to platforms on
wh
At Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:27:45 +0300,
Baris Cicek wrote:
>
> How would you get Free Software idea from GNU/Linux? [...] What GNU
> has something to do with that?
The exact answer to your questions seems to be at
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html, please take a time to read
it; it is not ver
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> > Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org
> > Subject: Re: Substituting "Linux" with "GNU/Linux" or "GNU"
> >
> > Don't think I ever saw a post with viewcvs links or similar so I just
> > want to say I hope any mention of linux or gnu/li
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:31:08 +0200
> From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: foundation-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: Substituting "
Don't think I ever saw a post with viewcvs links or similar so I just
want to say I hope any mention of linux or gnu/linux in our
documentation is to mention it as an example of a kernel/operating
system on which GNOME runs. If its ever used in our docs as a
description of the system etc., it shoul
Arguments against the term "GNU/Linux" commonly use straw men, double
standards, unfair accusations, factual errors, and tangents. Alan
Cox's message illustrates all of them.
A straw man argument criticizes something that nobody's arguing for.
The valid links in these arguments are often elaborat
> > This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for action/decision
> > regarding this matter.
>
> Thanks Yavor, we will discuss it at our next board meeting.
(One of the reasons I responded so quickly was that I was hoping to avoid
the usual "heard it all before" debate about this topi
> >From the Linux developer point of view it's really about theft of credit
> (and I've heard the same from X11 people). The FSF tries to steal the
> credit for the Linux OS despite having been actively anti-Linux in the
> early days. There are two reasons it does this. The first is that the
> FSF
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 01:41:44AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> Olav Vitters wrote:
> > FWIW, I did see 2 requests to rename 'Linux' on bugzilla.gnome.org
> > to GNU/Linux. My official position is 'people use that field?!?'
> > (except crazy GIMP developers; which is the only reason you can
> > st
Ar Sad, 2006-08-05 am 19:37 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov:
> combination. We include "Linux" in the name because it is an
> essential component of the system and the Linux developers deserve
> credit for their work. The GNU Project's policy was always to point
> out that Linux is a seperate p
Alan Cox wrote:
>
> The GNU/Linux case is particularly problematic as one of the purposes of
> trademark law is to prevent one mark being used confusingly to associate
> its values with another. That is what the GNU/Linux(tm) association
> specifically attempts to do.
If you put the trademark iss
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:09:57 +0300
> From: Yavor Doganov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: foundation-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: Substituting "Linux" with "GNU/Linux" or "GNU"
>
> Jeff Waugh wrote
Ar Sad, 2006-08-05 am 00:00 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov:
> However, I'm not really familiar with Trademark Law, but if this is a
> really a problem, I suggest to call the system "GNU". I'm using all
> GNU variants so I call the system "GNU" in 99.99% of the cases,
> when I refer to somet
Olav Vitters wrote:
>
> FWIW, I did see 2 requests to rename 'Linux' on bugzilla.gnome.org
> to GNU/Linux. My official position is 'people use that field?!?'
> (except crazy GIMP developers; which is the only reason you can
> still see the field). If that needs changing, do it upstream. I do
> not
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:19:04PM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for
> action/decision regarding this matter.
>
> There are some strings in some GNOME programs and very few in the
> GNOME documentaion that refer to the operating system as "Linux"
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 12:53:56AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> Shaun McCance wrote:
> >
> > For those curious, many of this was discussed in the thread on
> > gnome-doc-list, starting here:
> >
> > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2006-July/msg00200.html
>
> That's right; I gave a
Shaun McCance wrote:
>
> For those curious, many of this was discussed in the thread on
> gnome-doc-list, starting here:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2006-July/msg00200.html
That's right; I gave a link to the same discussion through Gmane since
the official archive was partl
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 23:19 +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for
> action/decision regarding this matter.
>
> There are some strings in some GNOME programs and very few in the
> GNOME documentaion that refer to the operating system as "Linux". We
>
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 00:09 +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> >
> > > Could you provide references to the use of "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" in the
> > > GNOME documentation?
>
> I was not examining documentation, but the GDP folks said such
> examples are extremely rare, and I beleiv
Jeff Waugh wrote:
>
> > Could you provide references to the use of "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" in the
> > GNOME documentation?
I was not examining documentation, but the GDP folks said such
examples are extremely rare, and I beleive so. I was refering to the
strings in applications, and I posted an
Alan Cox wrote:
>
> For the benefit of that meeting I'd like to note to the board that
> Linux is the name of the operating system kernel and is a
> trademark. If you wish to use the term GNU/Linux then you should
> seek the permission of the Linux trademark holder.
I think this is the second tim
> Could you provide references to the use of "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" in the
> GNOME documentation? viewcvs links are fine.
I should have clarified - just pertinent examples, this doesn't have to be
exhaustive. :-)
(Sorry for the reply-replies.)
- Jeff
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>
>
> > This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for action/decision
> > regarding this matter.
>
> Thanks Yavor, we will discuss it at our next board meeting.
Yavor,
Could you provide references to the use of "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" in the
GNOME documentation? viewcvs links are f
Ar Gwe, 2006-08-04 am 23:19 +0300, ysgrifennodd Yavor Doganov:
> This issue was first brought at GTP; I was substituting "Linux" with
> "GNU/Linux" in my translations and our team leader asked for a general
> solution on the -i18n list. Christian Rose, one of the GTP
For the benefit of that meeti
> This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for action/decision
> regarding this matter.
Thanks Yavor, we will discuss it at our next board meeting.
- Jeff
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This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for
action/decision regarding this matter.
There are some strings in some GNOME programs and very few in the
GNOME documentaion that refer to the operating system as "Linux". We
would like the Board to vote and decide for a policy to substitute
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