Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-18 Thread Andrea Veri
I will get in contact with the FSF about this and try to find out which software they use, how they've set it up etc. As for now our jabberd runs on a very old machine which is ready to be recycled and pulled out from our rack. I feel it makes no point in migrating it somewhere else as it is now f

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-15 Thread Jim Campbell
Hi All, On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 12:34 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > > > > This takes in another problem, is the service supposed for Foundation > > members or for the "big public"? (where "big public" means all the > > GNOME contributors having

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-15 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 12:34 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > > This takes in another problem, is the service supposed for Foundation > members or for the "big public"? (where "big public" means all the > GNOME contributors having a Git account) Out of curiosity, does anybody know how large the set of

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-14 Thread Andrea Veri
There's a specific kind of SSL certificate to be set up in this case, you just can't use the same certificate used by a web server for example. Our CA gives us the possibility to issue a jabber-specific-certificate without any burden. The main blockers I currently see are: 1. SSL, is it really bro

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-14 Thread Martyn Russell
On 13/03/13 23:22, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 09:26:33AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: to maintain the OpenFire Jabber server. First, as Olav mentioned, there's no SSL support for a service where you would expect privacy. There is SSL. Just that: 1) they broke it in a newer ver

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 09:26:33AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > to maintain the OpenFire Jabber server. First, as Olav mentioned, > there's no SSL support for a service where you would expect privacy. There is SSL. Just that: 1) they broke it in a newer version and never fixed it in any reasonab

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-13 Thread Martyn Russell
On 12/03/13 13:38, Shaun McCance wrote: On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:26 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: Hey, On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 10:03 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: Hi all, I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-13 Thread Tobias Mueller
Bonjour, On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:42:23PM -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > Is there some reason the Jabber server has to be connected to that LDAP > password? Well. If you don't, then you need to implement some form of registration and authentication. One could do in-band registration but restrict

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-12 Thread Bastien Nocera
Em Tue, 2013-03-12 às 09:38 -0400, Shaun McCance escreveu: > On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:26 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > Hey, > > > > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 10:03 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had > > > no idea we

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 17:04 +0100, Tobias Mueller wrote: > Hola, > > On 12.03.2013 14:38, Shaun McCance wrote: > > So I get to > > send my password in plain text to register with our new bot. > > > But your bot password isn't as valuable as *the one* GNOME password that > the jabber server curren

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-12 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hola, On 12.03.2013 14:38, Shaun McCance wrote: > So I get to > send my password in plain text to register with our new bot. > But your bot password isn't as valuable as *the one* GNOME password that the jabber server currently uses. >> > Why not get the GNOME jabber service (co-)hosted somewher

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-12 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:26 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Hey, > > On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 10:03 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had > > no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts > > on it, or how to g

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-12 Thread Bastien Nocera
Hey, On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 10:03 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > Hi all, > > I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had > no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts > on it, or how to go about doing so. > > What's more, over the last week, I tried to help t

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:03:33AM -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: > I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had > no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts > on it, or how to go about doing so. That is because we do not have a nice accounts system. I don't exp

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
I remember there was one, but I never took advantage of it. I still can't take advantage of it due to some wierd password issues. I said earlier, I'm willing to evaluate on its merits. sri On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Shaun McCance

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Emily Gonyer
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > Hi all, > > I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had > no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts > on it, or how to go about doing so. > > What's more, over the last week, I tried to help two peopl

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Michael Hill
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Shaun McCance wrote: > I propose that we address these issues to give Jabber a fair > shake. We can then reevaluate its popularity in six months. +1 A Get Started video (or at least step-by-step instructions on a wiki page) would be nice. I'd like to know if my

jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Shaun McCance
Hi all, I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts on it, or how to go about doing so. What's more, over the last week, I tried to help two people use their jabber.gnome.org accounts with no success. I think it's