Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Kevin Kubasik
my $0.02 Don't get me wrong, bounties can be great motivators, especially around key bugs or major refactoring jobs etc. I think the Google Summer of Code is a great example of a successful bounty program. Other systems that have worked well are sometimes the completely independent 'I'll buy a

Re: Who would be a good member? [Was: About the coming election]

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Richard Stallman wrote: I think that one requisite of a good board member is a visible commitment to the goal of a world in which software is free. I think the Gnome Foundation could make heavier emphasis on free and open data / file formats too, as a marketing tool (and mission statement

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
I'm sure alot of us myself included would like to spend more time working on free software if we could only afford it... I guess my original suggestion for a more formal bounty system would be doomed to fail (too complicated, not in the free spirit) - but perhaps there could be an lgo page

Re: academic cooperation

2007-11-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le jeudi 08 novembre 2007, à 08:45 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak a écrit : Has http://live.gnome.org/Academic gotten stuck? The wiki page, yes, but not the idea :-) I'm working with a French professor doing a computer science course and using GNOME as a basis for the projects. Also,

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Posting 'a beer at next Guadec for whoever fixes bug #7' is informal enough that I think we avoid the main issue which is the alienation of volunteers, however, it doesn't really address the big issue which is how can users donate and drive development of a feature they desire? I'm more

academic cooperation

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Has http://live.gnome.org/Academic gotten stuck? Has the promised mailing list happened? Can I help? The thread on this list seemed to die out in August with no further action. - Mike ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: academic cooperation

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Fernando San Martín Woerner wrote: I'm working with a French professor doing a computer science course and using GNOME as a basis for the projects. Also, David Bolter put me in contact with a professor who's interested in having students do some GNOME-related projects. There's also a group of

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Kevin Kubasik
On Nov 8, 2007 6:38 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure alot of us myself included would like to spend more time working on free software if we could only afford it... Always a hearty second to that :) I guess my original suggestion for a more formal bounty system

Re: academic cooperation - new list up

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Jeff Waugh wrote: There were some problems creating mailing lists around that time. I'll do it for you immediately. Thanks Jeff! The new list is available here: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/academia-list - Mike ___ foundation-list

Re: academic cooperation

2007-11-08 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 15:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: I'm working with a French professor doing a computer science course and using GNOME as a basis for the projects. Also, David Bolter put me in contact with a professor who's interested in having students do some GNOME-related projects.

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 08:02 -0200, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: Interesting way of putting it, we wouldnt ever want patches to be rushed in because of cash incentives, this is indeed risky - on the other hand I dont see why there shouldnt be some external distributed firm of developers

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Kevin Kubasik
On Nov 8, 2007 8:29 AM, Liam R E Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 11:53 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: [...] Just a short note on the success of bounties. The Anjuta Project (www.anjuta.org/tasks, list is not completely up-to-date) put bounties of overall about 4000$ in

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 11:53 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: [...] Just a short note on the success of bounties. The Anjuta Project (www.anjuta.org/tasks, list is not completely up-to-date) put bounties of overall about 4000$ in place about two years ago. Only about half of those have been worked

clarification and apology [was Re: board]

2007-11-08 Thread Luis Villa
On Nov 2, 2007 7:43 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Luis Villa I volunteered to take leadership on this position months ago. We chose to have a Board member as liaison to the Legal team, which was very clearly delegated the responsibility to provide legal support and

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 10:29 -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote: Gnome Miles. :) Already there. Called Bugzilla points :). -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Gnome Miles. :) Already there. Called Bugzilla points :). Exactly. I'd rather keep my Bugzilla points than trade them for Gnome socks... That just rewards insiders (not a bad thing...) but it doesn't address the idea of developing a commercial support ecosystem... (Don't get me wrong -

Re: clarification and apology [was Re: board]

2007-11-08 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On 11/8/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2007 7:44 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apologies for the impression I may have created about the current board. No problem, Luis. I don't think the board members got bad feelings for your constructive and rather justified

Re: About the coming election

2007-11-08 Thread Bruno Boaventura
In the years that I have been very peripherally associated (member of Membership Committee which gets the infrequent stick only during election time smile), I somehow feel that the general perception is still that rockstars rule the GNOME Board. Hello! I'm a new member of the Membership

Re: FOSDEM '08

2007-11-08 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 08 novembre 2007, à 20:31 +0100, Philip Van Hoof a écrit : Is somebody this year taking care of the GNOME developer room at FOSDEM? I think this year you have to request one. Let's not forget to do that :) (has somebody done this already?) Well, we had to request one every year in

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
On Nov 8, 2007 12:07 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posting 'a beer at next Guadec for whoever fixes bug #7' is informal enough that I think we avoid the main issue which is the alienation of volunteers, however, it doesn't really address the big issue which is how

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
On Nov 6, 2007 7:26 PM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/07, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it's no surprise that money and free/open software have a delicate relationship... I have been putting it in this way: The connection between free software

FOSDEM '08

2007-11-08 Thread Philip Van Hoof
Is somebody this year taking care of the GNOME developer room at FOSDEM? I think this year you have to request one. Let's not forget to do that :) (has somebody done this already?) -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Richard Stallman
I've seen projects like Plone do that... it's clearly an open source project, but they list quite a few companies that can provide for-pay support. What's more significant for our purposes is that Plone is a free software package. That makes it relevant for comparison.

Re: clarification and apology [was Re: board]

2007-11-08 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa wrote: Since March of this year, I've been trying to help out on a variety of miscellaneous Foundation-related legal projects- some important, some not so much. All of these projects, for various reasons, stalled. When I came back up to speed, I tried to revive them, but got

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Dave Neary
Johannes Schmid wrote: Do you remeber those people from GUADEC with Telepathy T-Shirt. There was something on it like: I spend my whole free time hacking on Telepathy and all I got was this T-Shirt. That was at least funny! And original to boot! :) Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME