Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-29 Thread Richard Stallman
Ok, you talked me into doing it.  Check again:

  http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gop-a11y.html

Thank you.
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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-28 Thread Li Yuan
Great program! It will definitely bring better accessibility support for
GNOME.
I'd like to help people who participate the program and need support from
accessibility infrastructure.

Li

2008/2/27, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects
 

 BOSTON, Mass—February 27, 2008 — The GNOME Foundation is running an
 accessibility outreach program, offering USD$50,000 to be split among
 individuals. This program will promote software accessibility awareness
 among the GNOME community as well as harden and improve the overall
 quality of the GNOME accessibility offering.

 The program is sponsored by GNOME Foundation, Mozilla Foundation,
 Google™'s Open Source Program Office, Canonical, and Novell. This is the
 second in a series of outreach programs coordinated and run by the GNOME
 Foundation.

 I'm excited about the GNOME accessibility outreach program because it
 continues the promotion of compelling accessible design as part of the
 mainstream developer culture. We believe the set of tangible and
 achievable tasks outlined will help improve the already good
 accessibility offering of the GNOME desktop, said Willie Walker, Senior
 Staff Engineer of Sun Microsystems, Inc.

 GNOME Outreach Program: Accessibility starts accepting applications on
 March 1st and will run towards the end of the year. There will be two
 tracks to the program: In the first track accepted individuals will work
 towards accomplishing one of the major projects nominated for the
 program, earning US$6,000 and can take up to six months to complete the
 task. The second track will reward contributors US$1,000 for fixing five
 bugs out of a pool of accessibility bugs nominated by the program
 judges.

 Individuals interested in participating in the program should check out
 www.gnome.org/projects/outreach/a11y. More information about the program
 may be found at the same location.

 Read the full announcement at:
 http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gop-a11y.html


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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Stallman
The only places in the announcement that open source appears is in the
Google's office name, and in the About blurbs of sponsors (Mozilla
Foundation and Canonical).  None of which GNOME Foundation has any
control on.

That is true, but the GNOME Foundation has control over the whole rest
of the announcement, so it can make sure that the announcement as a
whole clearly supports the free software cause.

 Could you revise it so that free software gets equal weight (at
 least)?

I'll keep that in mind for the future, but I don't think changing a PR
that is out is a good idea.

You could change it now by inserting text in square brackets.
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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Stallman
Note that this press release is not about free software, but about
accessibility

It's about accessibility for GNOME, thus accessibility for free
software.  The fact that GNOME is free software isn't the main point
of this announcement, but it should be a side point.



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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-28 Thread David Bolter
Richard Stallman wrote:
 Note that this press release is not about free software, but about
 accessibility

 It's about accessibility for GNOME, thus accessibility for free
 software.  The fact that GNOME is free software isn't the main point
 of this announcement, but it should be a side point.

   

Yes.  It is so important that accessibility be 'free'.  It is so 
frustrating when these solutions are not shared and improved.  Imagine 
not been allowed to fix a bug to enable someone!  G

(RMS I know how easy that is for you to imagine :) )

D
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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-28 Thread Peter Korn

Hi gang,

To amplify on what David said...  While many folks with disabilities are 
understandably most focused on getting a solution that works for them 
(whether proprietary or not, so long as they have it and can thus use 
technology, be on the 'net, etc.), I think an increasing number feel 
that FOSS accessibility is very important.  See 
http://blogs.sun.com/korn/date/20080223 for my writeup of a pair of 
videos from India about FOSS accessibility (and specifically about Orca 
on Ubuntu), and the very clear statement from Krishnakant Mane on this 
topic.



Peter


Richard Stallman wrote:
  

Note that this press release is not about free software, but about
accessibility

It's about accessibility for GNOME, thus accessibility for free
software.  The fact that GNOME is free software isn't the main point
of this announcement, but it should be a side point.

  



Yes.  It is so important that accessibility be 'free'.  It is so 
frustrating when these solutions are not shared and improved.  Imagine 
not been allowed to fix a bug to enable someone!  G


(RMS I know how easy that is for you to imagine :) )

D
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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-27 Thread Richard Stallman
This activity sounds very useful, but there's a problem in the
announcement: it doesn't mention free software, but does mention
open source.

Could you revise it so that free software gets equal weight (at
least)?
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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 11:08 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
 This activity sounds very useful, but there's a problem in the
 announcement: it doesn't mention free software, but does mention
 open source.

Hi Richard,

The only places in the announcement that open source appears is in the
Google's office name, and in the About blurbs of sponsors (Mozilla
Foundation and Canonical).  None of which GNOME Foundation has any
control on.

 Could you revise it so that free software gets equal weight (at
 least)?

I'll keep that in mind for the future, but I don't think changing a PR
that is out is a good idea.

Cheers,

-- 
behdad
http://behdad.org/

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
 Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-27 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Richard,

Le mercredi 27 février 2008, à 11:08 -0500, Richard Stallman a écrit :
 This activity sounds very useful, but there's a problem in the
 announcement: it doesn't mention free software, but does mention
 open source.
 
 Could you revise it so that free software gets equal weight (at
 least)?

The places where Open Source is mentioned are out of our control: it's
in the About organization blurbs. GNOME's blurb talks about free
software and there are other places where freedom is mentioned. I'm sure
we would have changed mentions of Open Source to Free Software if it was
in the main text.

Note that this press release is not about free software, but about
accessibility (which explains why free software isn't mentioned in the
main part of the press release).

Thanks,

Vincent

-- 
Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.
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GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects

2008-02-26 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects


BOSTON, Mass—February 27, 2008 — The GNOME Foundation is running an
accessibility outreach program, offering USD$50,000 to be split among
individuals. This program will promote software accessibility awareness
among the GNOME community as well as harden and improve the overall
quality of the GNOME accessibility offering.

The program is sponsored by GNOME Foundation, Mozilla Foundation,
Google™'s Open Source Program Office, Canonical, and Novell. This is the
second in a series of outreach programs coordinated and run by the GNOME
Foundation.

“I'm excited about the GNOME accessibility outreach program because it
continues the promotion of compelling accessible design as part of the
mainstream developer culture. We believe the set of tangible and
achievable tasks outlined will help improve the already good
accessibility offering of the GNOME desktop,” said Willie Walker, Senior
Staff Engineer of Sun Microsystems, Inc.

GNOME Outreach Program: Accessibility starts accepting applications on
March 1st and will run towards the end of the year. There will be two
tracks to the program: In the first track accepted individuals will work
towards accomplishing one of the major projects nominated for the
program, earning US$6,000 and can take up to six months to complete the
task. The second track will reward contributors US$1,000 for fixing five
bugs out of a pool of accessibility bugs nominated by the program
judges.

Individuals interested in participating in the program should check out
www.gnome.org/projects/outreach/a11y. More information about the program
may be found at the same location.

Read the full announcement at:
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gop-a11y.html


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