Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-12-02 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 17:34 -0500, Richard M. Stallman wrote: Nearly - though any new acronym can obfuscate. For that reason, I'd suggest going with ISD, because of its similarity to the familiar ISV, at least the reader may clue in by association and context. ISD would

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-28 Thread Vincent Untz
[I removed all the cc] On dim, 2005-11-27 at 13:48 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 10:48 +, Bill Haneman wrote: Nearly - though any new acronym can obfuscate. For that reason, I'd suggest going with ISD, because of its similarity to the familiar ISV, at least the

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-28 Thread Bill Haneman
Vincent Untz wrote: [I removed all the cc] On dim, 2005-11-27 at 13:48 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 10:48 +, Bill Haneman wrote: Nearly - though any new acronym can obfuscate. For that reason, I'd suggest going with ISD, because of its similarity to the

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Alan Horkan wrote: Does ISV stand for Independent Software Vendor? If so, the term is often misleading, because the most important developers of GNOME applications--those developing free software--are mostly not vendors. The important point is the need for clear

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-27 Thread J.M. Maurer
And as an individual, I think that choice of word did fail. Whenever I saw/read ISV in any context in GNOME, I thought of it as issues concerning businesses only, not myself as a *user* of the GNOME libraries, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one. No indeed you were not. Count me in :) So

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-27 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 14:55 +, Alan Horkan wrote: We can't solve the problem by denying it. No one is denying the power of words but matters of linguistics are distracting from more important issues (like the need for clear information and heading off patent threats). Actually, the

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-27 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 06:26:05PM +0100, Quim Gil wrote: In GNOME we donpt talk usually about first-party and second-party developers AFAIK (I have only heard of beer-parties). But we talsk about GNOME developers and GNOME hackers, in this context I find more appropriate Independent Software

Re: [Off Topic] Words to Avoid Vendor [was Re: Questions to answer]

2005-11-27 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 06:48:31PM -0700, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: Businesses require more than an email client and a web browser, they require the highly vertical applications that enable them to carry out their business. These may be as simple as inventory control or as complex as an