Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-25 Thread Lionel Dricot
Le mercredi 25 mai 2011 à 14:34 +0100, Bastien Nocera a écrit : > On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 15:19 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: [snip] > Could you explain what concrete plans you have? Are you thinking that > the GNOME Foundation should take care of distributing bids from > customers to its ecosystem?

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-25 Thread Lionel Dricot
Le lundi 23 mai 2011 à 08:45 -0500, Paul Cutler a écrit : > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Martyn Russell wrote: [snip] > > Given the board represent the foundation at the highest level, why shouldn't > > they be (more?) involved in commercialisation of GNOME? > > Just a quick note, but I belie

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-25 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 15:19 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: > Hi Bastien et al, > > I'm sorry for the late reply but I wanted to take the time to clarify my > vision. > But improving the situation is not only about adding a webpage. It's > really about adding a new paradigm to the GNOME foundation. T

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-25 Thread Lionel Dricot
Hi Bastien et al, I'm sorry for the late reply but I wanted to take the time to clarify my vision. Having an honest experience in the proprietary software world, I observed that having "official support" was a requirement for any technological choices. As such, choosing a product from a given co

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi, Le lundi 23 mai 2011, à 15:55 +0100, Martyn Russell a écrit : > On 23/05/11 15:08, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > >Martyn Russell a écrit: > > > >> > >>That's always needed too of course, but when you have potential > >>customers asking who can provide support for projects X, Y and Z, do > >>you rea

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 15:08, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Martyn Russell a écrit: That's always needed too of course, but when you have potential customers asking who can provide support for projects X, Y and Z, do you really want to be in a position where you have no answer? Oh, you mean when a potential c

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 15:28, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Martyn Russell a écrit: On 23/05/11 12:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: It is not only about having a page that list the commercial support companies. It's more about a deep collaboration between the

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Martyn Russell a écrit: > On 23/05/11 12:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: >>> It is not only about having a page that list the >>> commercial support companies. It's more about a deep collaboration >>> between the foundation and the companies

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Martyn Russell a écrit: > > That's always needed too of course, but when you have potential > customers asking who can provide support for projects X, Y and Z, do > you really want to be in a position where you have no answer? Oh, you mean when a potential customer comes to the /Foundation Board

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Cutler
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Martyn Russell wrote: > Isn't that part of the problem? If the foundation isn't behind this, won't > it seem completely self indulgent on behalf of businesses alone? > > What I personally would like to see is much more backing from the > foundation. E.g. > >  - A w

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 13:43, Dodji Seketeli wrote: Lionel Dricot a écrit: At Lanedo, we have been surprised a few times by people who were thinking that there was no commercial support available for GTK+. We have heard of companies switching to Qt because Qt was guaranteed by a company. Things like tha

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Martyn Russell
On 23/05/11 12:02, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: It is not only about having a page that list the commercial support companies. It's more about a deep collaboration between the foundation and the companies that live from GNOME. I personally don

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Lionel Dricot a écrit: > At Lanedo, we have been surprised a few times by people who were > thinking that there was no commercial support available for GTK+. We > have heard of companies switching to Qt because Qt was guaranteed by a > company. > > Things like that clearly show a lack of communic

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 09:29 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: > Le lundi 23 mai 2011 à 00:14 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > > Le dimanche 22 mai 2011, à 23:45 +0200, Lionel Dricot a écrit : > > > It would have been easy to criticize, to say loudly that the board > > > should improve the situation withou

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Lionel Dricot
Le lundi 23 mai 2011 à 00:14 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le dimanche 22 mai 2011, à 23:45 +0200, Lionel Dricot a écrit : > > It would have been easy to criticize, to say loudly that the board > > should improve the situation without moving a single finger. But I think > > that, if you want some

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-23 Thread Lionel Dricot
Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 23:44 -0400, Richard Stallman a écrit : > At Lanedo, we have been surprised a few times by people who were > thinking that there was no commercial support available for GTK+. > > It would make good sense for GNOME to have a list of commercial > service providers. It

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-22 Thread Richard Stallman
At Lanedo, we have been surprised a few times by people who were thinking that there was no commercial support available for GTK+. It would make good sense for GNOME to have a list of commercial service providers. It should have stated rules of good conduct and list anyone who agrees to t

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 23 mai 2011, à 00:14 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le dimanche 22 mai 2011, à 23:45 +0200, Lionel Dricot a écrit : > > It would have been easy to criticize, to say loudly that the board > > should improve the situation without moving a single finger. But I think > > that, if you want som

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-22 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 22 mai 2011, à 23:45 +0200, Lionel Dricot a écrit : > It would have been easy to criticize, to say loudly that the board > should improve the situation without moving a single finger. But I think > that, if you want something to happen, you have to make it yourself. I > think that the G

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-22 Thread Lionel Dricot
Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 22:23 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit : > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00:45AM +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: > > I want to achieve to make obvious to anybody that all the GNOME > > technologies (including GTK+) are technologies adapted to a commercial > > product and that high qua

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00:45AM +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: > I want to achieve to make obvious to anybody that all the GNOME > technologies (including GTK+) are technologies adapted to a commercial > product and that high quality commercial support exist for them. I hope > this will help GNOME