Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Lukas Gradl
I do recommend Lazarus for new projects and startup-programmers. But I Just to second that: A year ago, I decided to use FPC and Lazarus as main platform instead of Delphi - and I don't regret at all. Lot's of code (mainly Server daemons without GUI) is ported successfully and works perfectl

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
This highly personal and in each case is not relevant to the discussion: Of course I do agree. -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Michael Schnell wrote: > > > In practice however, the framework > > constructors are under a lot of pressure to provide whatever microsoft > > came up with or to start using new features, whether they want it or > > not. > > > In this area I feel that much of what Microso

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
In practice however, the framework constructors are under a lot of pressure to provide whatever microsoft came up with or to start using new features, whether they want it or not. In this area I feel that much of what Microsoft comes up with is not bad ideas at all. I lately took a look at

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Michael Schnell wrote: > > > ... but Microsoft controls the features. > > > Of course you are right that they defined what features are in each upgrade > version of the CIL framework and libraries provided and the other framework > constructors are likely to follow them.

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
... but Microsoft controls the features. Of course you are right that they defined what features are in each upgrade version of the CIL framework and libraries provided and the other framework constructors are likely to follow them. But for developing software that is to run in the framewo

Re: [fpc-devel] Code is clean now, but how about documentation?

2008-10-07 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: > > Given that you nearly gave me a heartattack and that I didn't sleep tonight, > I'd like to ask everyone to be careful when making such statements. > Even though I know these allegations are not correct, it works heavily > on my system. I'm o

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Michael Schnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> That's another catch-up game being played - the same as Delphi for >>> .NET. They will ALWAYS be two steps behind Microsoft (which is also >>> competi

Re: [fpc-devel] Code is clean now, but how about documentation?

2008-10-07 Thread Tom Verhoeff
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:53:22AM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > I checked: > It is very different, so probably you indeed copied from FPC docs. Please accept my apologies for barking at nothing. > Which is also correct on your part, because the FPC docs are free text, > and if you used

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
He is talking about .net imho. We are talking about CIL frameworks, one of which is .Net among several others (of course .Net is the most widely used and thus the most accounted for). -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.o

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread ik
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Michael Schnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That's another catch-up game being played - the same as Delphi for >> .NET. They will ALWAYS be two steps behind Microsoft (which is also >> competing in the developer tools market). >> > > I don't think Microsoft is

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
That's another catch-up game being played - the same as Delphi for .NET. They will ALWAYS be two steps behind Microsoft (which is also competing in the developer tools market). I don't think Microsoft is any steps ahead with a framework running on multiple platforms. -Michael

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Michael Schnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Schnell wrote: >> >> ... the rise of ... Mono ... > > Mono 2.0 as of yesterday :) That's another catch-up game being played - the same as Delphi for .NET. They will ALWAYS be two steps behind Microsoft (which

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
Michael Schnell wrote: ... the rise of ... Mono ... Mono 2.0 as of yesterday :) -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Schnell
do appreciate all the efforts you guys put into these projects. Keep up the great work - CodeGear should tremble in their boots! Their latest newsletter suggests that they are going to target .Net and .Net and .Net. While I am not really convinced that this is a bad strategy, given CIL's

Re: [fpc-devel] Code is clean now, but how about documentation?

2008-10-07 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Tom Verhoeff wrote: > On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:09:23PM +0200, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > > Given that I didn't even own or use Delphi at the time the system unit was > > first documented, this is strange news indeed. > > I could be wrong (it has happened before :-

[fpc-devel] Excellent work you guys have done

2008-10-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I know I sometimes bitch about some little thing in FPC or Lazarus. Well, it's not all bad. :-) I often tell other people about our company experience with FPC and Lazarus. This time I thought I would forward one such email here. Just to show you guys that we (as users) do appreciate all the