Re: [fpc-devel] Re: CodeGear abandons Delphi.NET

2008-11-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Alexander Klenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) http://prismwiki.codegear.com/en/With_(keyword) > but without 'matching' clause. The following code is just confusing as hell... with b: Button := new Button do with c: Color := b.BackColor do begin ... b.

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: CodeGear abandons Delphi.NET

2008-11-05 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 03:16, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And some links for your reading pleasure... ;-) > > http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene.aspx A pleasure indeed ;-) I did not know Oxigene/Prism syntax has evolved fo far ahead of Delphi/FPC. While browsing their wiki, I f

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread m2
Schatzl Thomas a écrit : Hello, Datum: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:04:01 +0100 Von: "Vinzent Höfler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unless they make use of Ada. Which just has both, that's all. ;) As an alternative one could read some other language reference manuals and notice that - surprisingly - at least

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Vinzent Höfler
Schatzl Thomas wrote: Hello, Datum: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:04:01 +0100 Von: "Vinzent Höfler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unless they make use of Ada. Which just has both, that's all. ;) As an alternative one could read some other language reference manuals and notice that - surprisingly - at least two

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Schatzl Thomas
Hello, > Datum: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:04:01 +0100 > Von: "Vinzent Höfler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Unless they make use of Ada. > > Which just has both, that's all. ;) > > As an alternative one could read some other language reference manuals > and notice that - surprisingly - at least two of the

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Vinzent Höfler
m2 wrote: Florian Klaempfl a écrit : Dmitry Lizorkin schrieb: I agree, no real life need. Except probably for my 150 students to whom i can no longer recommend FPC as a reference implementation. Hopefully they won't be schocked when being hit by another real world programming language implem

Re: [Lazarusdev] [fpc-devel] Documentation for FCL files not already in the FreePascal docs

2008-11-05 Thread Christopher Kirkpatrick
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:44:59 +0100 Vincent Snijders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, feel free to add these new xml docs to a new directory: http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk/docs/xml/fcl I will try to incorporate these files in the nightly doc builds, either by patching the Ma

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation for FCL files not already in the FreePascal docs

2008-11-05 Thread Vincent Snijders
Michael Van Canneyt schreef: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Vincent Snijders wrote: Michael Van Canneyt schreef: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chris Kirkpatrick wrote: I need advice: either we need documentation files created by the FPC developers, or I need to try to create documentation files using MakeSkel a

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation for FCL files not already in the FreePascal docs

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Vincent Snijders wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt schreef: > > > > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chris Kirkpatrick wrote: > > > > > I am trying to provide documentation for the LCL (as .xml files using > > > FPDoc > > > and tools in the Lazarus IDE). > > > > > > In the unit Graphics, the

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread m2
Florian Klaempfl a écrit : Dmitry Lizorkin schrieb: I agree, no real life need. Except probably for my 150 students to whom i can no longer recommend FPC as a reference implementation. Hopefully they won't be schocked when being hit by another real world programming language implementing mod

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation for FCL files not already in the FreePascal docs

2008-11-05 Thread Vincent Snijders
Michael Van Canneyt schreef: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chris Kirkpatrick wrote: I am trying to provide documentation for the LCL (as .xml files using FPDoc and tools in the Lazarus IDE). In the unit Graphics, there are several Components that inherit properties and methods from components and units

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC debug information

2008-11-05 Thread Marc Weustink
dmitry boyarintsev wrote: i know Marc, but the purpose is to make expression evaluation. while setting property is procedure, i can't think of any expression that uses it. But of couse, it might be usefull to know how to set properties (directly member of class, or a method) i guess, that pr

Re: [fpc-devel] Documentation for FCL files not already in the FreePascal docs

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chris Kirkpatrick wrote: > I am trying to provide documentation for the LCL (as .xml files using FPDoc > and tools in the Lazarus IDE). > > In the unit Graphics, there are several Components that inherit properties and > methods from components and units in the FCL, includin

[fpc-devel] Documentation for FCL files not already in the FreePascal docs

2008-11-05 Thread Chris Kirkpatrick
I am trying to provide documentation for the LCL (as .xml files using FPDoc and tools in the Lazarus IDE). In the unit Graphics, there are several Components that inherit properties and methods from components and units in the FCL, including FPImgCmn, FPImage, FPCanvas, FPReadPNG, FPWritePNG,

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Wed, 5 Nov 2008, schreef Dmitry Lizorkin: Except probably for my 150 students to whom i can no longer recommend FPC as a reference implementation. That's okay. You should never have recommended FPC as a reference implementation, because we are not. We started to implement the Borland di

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 05 Nov 2008, at 13:18, Dmitry Lizorkin wrote: Except probably for my 150 students to whom i can no longer recommend FPC as a reference implementation. FPC indeed is not a reference implementation of ISO Pascal. Jonas ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Dmitry Lizorkin schrieb: >> I agree, no real life need. > > Except probably for my 150 students to whom i can no longer recommend > FPC as a reference implementation. Hopefully they won't be schocked when being hit by another real world programming language implementing mod like it is implemented

Re: [fpc-devel] -1 mod 3

2008-11-05 Thread Dmitry Lizorkin
Hello! There is no need for such a switch. No programs needs it, because if you need to positive value you need just one if statement. Or the beautiful iso-compliant Abs? That's not that simple. In particular, ISO-compliant result for (-1) mod 3 is 2, not abs(-1). As the result, one cannot

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC debug information

2008-11-05 Thread dmitry boyarintsev
i know Marc, but the purpose is to make expression evaluation. while setting property is procedure, i can't think of any expression that uses it. But of couse, it might be usefull to know how to set properties (directly member of class, or a method) i guess, that property information is also avai

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC debug information

2008-11-05 Thread Marc Weustink
dmitry boyarintsev wrote: It is impossible to encode properties in stabs. In Dwarf you can in theory describe pretty much anything, but gdb does not yet support the full Dwarf specifications. I guess it would be possible already to add debug info for properties that simply map