Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Darius Blaszyk wrote: Imagine you have debug, profiling and testing setup locally b Should be debug, release and testing Nono, I actually meant profiling as different from debug. The difference being that debug has all optimizations off, profiling has them all on.

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Darius Blaszyk
On Mar 31, 2011, at 9:22 AM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Darius Blaszyk wrote: Imagine you have debug, profiling and testing setup locally b Should be debug, release and testing Nono, I actually meant profiling as different from debug. The difference

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Darius Blaszyk schrieb: fpmake's intended use is to compile your FPC code. I can see the use of trying to run a testsuite, build docs and a binary zip for distribution: they are all FPC related things. But it is not intended as a general build system (i.e. replace make or ant or rpm or deb).

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Hans-Peter Diettrich said: functionality belongs in a different tool (although it could be in fpmake), but let's not limit fpmake only to FPC please. Let us (end users) also play with it ;) My view on (traditional) Make: (Note that if I say packages here, I mean

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 31 Mar 2011, at 13:29, Marco van de Voort wrote: 1. they are mostly generated anyway. The .fpc files are the info, not the makefiles themselves. I still prefer those Makefile.fpc files very much to the fpmake.pp files. The fact that fpmake.pp files are plain Pascal code makes them

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 31 Mar 2011, at 13:29, Marco van de Voort wrote: 1. they are mostly generated anyway. The .fpc files are the info, not the makefiles themselves. I still prefer those Makefile.fpc files very much to the fpmake.pp files. The idea is to

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: (I have to be careful here, I'm not the fpmake/fppkg person, that is Joost, these are my opinions only) 1. they are mostly generated anyway. The .fpc files are the info, not the makefiles themselves. I still prefer those Makefile.fpc files

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 31 Mar 2011, at 14:26, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 31 Mar 2011, at 13:29, Marco van de Voort wrote: 1. they are mostly generated anyway. The .fpc files are the info, not the makefiles themselves. I still prefer those Makefile.fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 31 Mar 2011, at 14:26, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 31 Mar 2011, at 13:29, Marco van de Voort wrote: 1. they are mostly generated anyway. The .fpc files are the info, not the makefiles

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 31 Mar 2011, at 14:42, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: I still prefer those Makefile.fpc files very much to the fpmake.pp files. The fact that fpmake.pp files are plain Pascal code makes them extremely flexible, but at the same time that also makes it

Re: [fpc-devel] Implementing TFmtBCDField - ftFmtBCD and SQLite

2011-03-31 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 09:43 +0100, LacaK wrote: after doing some test with new implementation of TFmtBCDField for TSQLite3Connection connector I encounter this problem: When you declare in SQLite some column as NUMERIC or DECIMAL then this column will have NUMERIC affinity. CREATE TABLE t

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: However I consider this a transitional problem only. We are still in the raw plumbing and discovery phase. In time, I assume some autogeneration helper functionality will emerge to make it at least (way) more bearable. That's all I'm asking

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 21:19 +0200, Darius Blaszyk wrote: On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Mar 30, 2011, at 5:31 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: - managing debug/release builds (also cross-compiling) What is failing in the current system for this ?

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 17:09 +0200, Darius Blaszyk wrote: A couple of things that come to mind: Note that you can build your own add-ins. I used it to build a Lazarus-add-in, so that you can install Lazarus-components. It is not ideal yet, but you can use this approach to add functionality,

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 15:41 +0200, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 31 Mar 2011, at 14:42, Marco van de Voort wrote: At least the package I referred to (univint) tends to change significantly over time. The Mac OS X 10.6 SDK split a bunch of headers and removed others compared to previous versions

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread dhkblaszyk
Thisnfeature is already there. When you use fpmake directly: -f, if you use fppkg (what I would recommend): fppkg -c. Thanks, I will have a look how it works. I'll try to document it on the wiki. On the side, fppkg is only for FPC right? So not useful for standalone projects. Darius

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 17:47 +0200, dhkblas...@zeelandnet.nl wrote: Thisnfeature is already there. When you use fpmake directly: -f, if you use fppkg (what I would recommend): fppkg -c. Thanks, I will have a look how it works. I'll try to document it on the wiki. On the side,

Re: [fpc-devel] The future of fpmake

2011-03-31 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Joost van der Sluis said: That's why I mentioned or any other structured format. It's not a bad idea to see if we can make a structured (and readable) format to create our fpmake.pp files. I think the problem goes deeper than this. Makefile.fpc doesn't list unit