Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Thaddy
On 8-8-2011 21:57, Sven Barth wrote: On 07.08.2011 19:52, Marco van de Voort wrote: That being said, there is another bubble going on in Mobile, and we have to be very careful that such things don't happen again. May I ask you to explain what you mean here? (Just curious) Regards, Sven _

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Sven Barth
On 08.08.2011 22:45, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Sven Barth said: the Win32 centric VCL :-( It was not only the VCL. They included stuff in the assemblies that made them basically hard to use from other languages. Things like initialization and finalization sections jus

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said: > > the Win32 centric VCL :-( > > > > It was not only the VCL. They included stuff in the assemblies that made > them basically hard to use from other languages. Things like > initialization and finalization sections just don't work that well in > the C

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > IMO CodeGear stumbled with Delphi.NET over the same stone as with Kylix: the > Win32 centric VCL :-( Non-sense, if it was like that Gtk2 would be a huge failure, because it is totally X11-centric, but nevertheless it has a very big us

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Sven Barth
On 08.08.2011 23:15, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Sven Barth schrieb: On 08.08.2011 12:48, Michael Schnell wrote: On 08/06/2011 12:16 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: So it's just a stopgap solution for them until they have time to build their own ARM compiler, They continue to use the product from RemO

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Sven Barth
On 08.08.2011 22:11, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Sven Barth said: That being said, there is another bubble going on in Mobile, and we have to be very careful that such things don't happen again. May I ask you to explain what you mean here? (Just curious) That donations

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: On 08.08.2011 12:48, Michael Schnell wrote: On 08/06/2011 12:16 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: So it's just a stopgap solution for them until they have time to build their own ARM compiler, They continue to use the product from RemObject as their .Net compiler :). So I suppose they

Re: [fpc-devel] Arm Thumb2 - Stellaris status

2011-08-08 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 08.08.2011 12:49, schrieb John Clymer: > Kicking it around in the back of my head at work today... > > I tried doing a compile to assembly language for the stellaris - and it > choked giving the error from t_embed.pas. The error comes from the > portion of the program trying to generate a link

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said: > > That being said, there is another bubble going on in Mobile, and we have to > > be very careful that such things don't happen again. > > May I ask you to explain what you mean here? (Just curious) That donations of large pieces of code are not checked

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Sven Barth
On 08.08.2011 12:48, Michael Schnell wrote: On 08/06/2011 12:16 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: So it's just a stopgap solution for them until they have time to build their own ARM compiler, They continue to use the product from RemObject as their .Net compiler :). So I suppose they are not in a hurry (

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Sven Barth
On 07.08.2011 19:52, Marco van de Voort wrote: That being said, there is another bubble going on in Mobile, and we have to be very careful that such things don't happen again. May I ask you to explain what you mean here? (Just curious) Regards, Sven

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread waldo kitty
On 8/7/2011 12:50, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 07 Aug 2011, at 17:57, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Makes you wonder, will they start submitting patches for FPC too? I hope so. The main problem I see with that is that they would become somewhat "tainted" by the FPC source code if they do so, which may

[fpc-devel] make fcl-base for arm-wince failure in fpc 2.7.1

2011-08-08 Thread Vincent Snijders
Hi, It seems that the conversion of fcl-base to fpmake still has a glitch: c:\lazarus\source\fpcbuild\trunk\fpcsrc\compiler\ppc386.exe fpmake.pp -FuC:/lazarus/source/fpcbuild/trunk/fpcsrc/rtl/units/i386-win32 -FuC:/lazarus/source/fpcbuild/trunk/fpcsrc/packages/hash/units/i386-win32 -FuC:/lazarus/

Re: [fpc-devel] Arm Thumb2 - Stellaris status

2011-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Barton
On 8 Aug 2011, at 11:49, John Clymer wrote: > Kicking it around in the back of my head at work today... > > I tried doing a compile to assembly language for the stellaris - and it > choked giving the error from t_embed.pas. The error comes from the portion > of the program trying to generate

Re: [fpc-devel] Arm Thumb2 - Stellaris status

2011-08-08 Thread John Clymer
Kicking it around in the back of my head at work today... I tried doing a compile to assembly language for the stellaris - and it choked giving the error from t_embed.pas. The error comes from the portion of the program trying to generate a linker script. Looking at t_embed.pas, it looks like

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Schnell
AFAIU, the Windows 32 FPC has some disadvantages regarding the Delphi compiler (compiling speed, executable speed, executable size). (Obviously providing multiplatform does not come for free.) -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepa

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Schnell
On 08/06/2011 12:16 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote: So it's just a stopgap solution for them until they have time to build their own ARM compiler, They continue to use the product from RemObject as their .Net compiler :). So I suppose they are not in a hurry (in case that FPC works as expected, which

Re: [fpc-devel] Delphi XE2 uses FPC for iOS target

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Schnell
+1 -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] Arm Thumb2 - Stellaris status

2011-08-08 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 12:14 PM, John Clymer wrote: > New to this - what is procedure to > generate and submit patch set ? http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Creating_A_Patch -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.fr

Re: [fpc-devel] Arm Thumb2 - Stellaris status

2011-08-08 Thread Geoffrey Barton
On 7 Aug 2011, at 11:14, John Clymer wrote: > Ok. Give me a week or so (very hectic schedule right now...) And I will see > if I can't patch it up some. To save you some time perhaps, the following was for lm3s9b92 and rtl/embedded/arm/stellaris.pas; I only tested with that device:- 1