Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/14/2013 08:31 PM, Paul Breneman wrote: This embedded thread you started recently has been great. I've tried to keep up with how you are using (or hoping to use) FPC on headless embedded systems for years now. Thanks, and please continue to keep us in the feedback loop! Hmm.

[fpc-devel] FPC for MIPS

2013-01-15 Thread SkyDiablo
hi ho, i'm back again ;) i have try this: http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org/msg27336.html but my Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS can't run the ppcmips binary? $ chmod +x ppcmips $ ./ppcmips -iV bash: ./ppcmips: Kann die Datei nicht ausführen. (Can't run this file) so, if

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for MIPS

2013-01-15 Thread microcode
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:04:20AM +0100, SkyDiablo wrote: hi ho, i'm back again ;) i have try this: http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org/msg27336.html but my Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS can't run the ppcmips binary? Ubuntu has a MIPS port? Even for LTS!? $ chmod

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/15/2013 11:22 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:45:29AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: (c) seems the most appropriate way to allow for decent debugging performance, but seemingly nobody yet decently tried (or wrote instructions to) to get Lazarus running remote gdb via

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for MIPS

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
SkyDiablo wrote: hi ho, i'm back again ;) i have try this: http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org/msg27336.html but my Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS can't run the ppcmips binary? $ chmod +x ppcmips $ ./ppcmips -iV bash: ./ppcmips: Kann die Datei nicht ausführen. (Can't run

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 11:22 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:45:29AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: (c) seems the most appropriate way to allow for decent debugging performance, but seemingly nobody yet decently tried (or wrote

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Sven Barth
Am 15.01.2013 11:52, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 11:22 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:45:29AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: (c) seems the most appropriate way to allow for decent debugging performance, but

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/15/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I would go for the second one, hands down... I see. Thanks (I'll come back when I seem to be unable to cross-compile the compiler or install it on the target ;-) ). -Michael ___ fpc-devel

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Sven Barth wrote: Am 15.01.2013 11:52, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 11:22 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:45:29AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: (c) seems the most appropriate way to allow

Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 10:45 +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/14/2013 08:31 PM, Paul Breneman wrote: This embedded thread you started recently has been great. I've tried to keep up with how you are using (or hoping to use) FPC on headless embedded systems for years now. Thanks,

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Sven Barth wrote: Cross-compile app every time is easier/better than Compile cross compiler once and work natively as of then ? That is a weird assumption. I would go for the second one, hands down... I wouldn't if the second one is significantly slower than the first one. Otherwise I'd

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, There are so many options at the moment, so actually it's the other way round, there's so *much* choice that it's hard to find the most suitable one for a given price point if you search a little. forgot to add the Chromebook as a more well-known option of course. Thomas

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Sven Barth
Am 15.01.2013 12:01, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Sven Barth wrote: Am 15.01.2013 11:52, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 11:22 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:45:29AM +0100, Michael Schnell

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 12:00 +0100, Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: I would go for the second one, hands down... I see. Thanks (I'll come back when I seem to be unable to cross-compile the compiler or install it on the target ;-) ). sudo

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Sven Barth
Am 15.01.2013 12:06, schrieb Thomas Schatzl: Hi, There are so many options at the moment, so actually it's the other way round, there's so *much* choice that it's hard to find the most suitable one for a given price point if you search a little. forgot to add the Chromebook as a more

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/15/2013 12:01 PM, Thomas Schatzl wrote: Do it on the device. Either directly or remote via NX, VNC or even X-forwarding is fast enough on current devices. As on the QNAP there is no graphics hardware, VNC will not work (at least not out of the box). It needs a Frame buffer RAM and if

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/15/2013 12:07 PM, Thomas Schatzl wrote: sudo apt-get install fpc and sudo apt-get install lazarus Nice if the system has apt... For the QNAP NAS (that runs a slightly tuned Linux distribution) there only is qpkg (by QNAP themselves) and ipkg (by Optware). Both worlds don't offer fpc or

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 12:01 PM, Thomas Schatzl wrote: Do it on the device. Either directly or remote via NX, VNC or even X-forwarding is fast enough on current devices. As on the QNAP there is no graphics hardware, VNC will not work (at least not out of the box). It needs a

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Michael Schnell
On 01/15/2013 12:29 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I was routinely able to run the server-end of VNC (i.e. the code that runs on the same machine as the app) on a Slug, I even do have a Slug for testing (the one that recently was replaced by the more powerful QNAP) How did you install the VNC

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 01/15/2013 12:29 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I was routinely able to run the server-end of VNC (i.e. the code that runs on the same machine as the app) on a Slug, I even do have a Slug for testing (the one that recently was replaced by the more powerful QNAP) How

Re: Develop on-device [Was: Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again]

2013-01-15 Thread Sven Barth
Am 15.01.2013 12:21, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 01/15/2013 12:01 PM, Thomas Schatzl wrote: Do it on the device. Either directly or remote via NX, VNC or even X-forwarding is fast enough on current devices. As on the QNAP there is no graphics hardware, VNC will not work (at least not out of

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for MIPS

2013-01-15 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
SkyDiablo wrote: Am 15.01.2013 11:46, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd: SkyDiablo wrote: hi ho, i'm back again ;) i have try this: http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org/msg27336.html but my Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS can't run the ppcmips binary? $ chmod +x ppcmips $ ./ppcmips

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC for MIPS

2013-01-15 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 15 Jan 2013, at 13:44, SkyDiablo wrote: $ make OPT=-O- -g -C compiler mips make: Gehe in Verzeichnis '/usr/local/src/fpc-trunk/compiler' make PPC_TARGET=mips CPU_UNITDIR=mips all make[1]: Betrete Verzeichnis '/usr/local/src/fpc-trunk/compiler' /usr/bin/ppc386 -Fumips -Fusystems

RE: [fpc-devel] FPC for MIPS

2013-01-15 Thread Pierre Free Pascal
I updated ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/trunk/mipsel-linux/ and ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/trunk/mips-linux/ directories with new snapshots dated from 2013-01-15. Tell us if these work better, Pierre Muller -Message d'origine- De :

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Thomas Schatzl said: ? That is a weird assumption. I would go for the second one, hands down... I wouldn't if the second one is significantly slower than the first one. Otherwise I'd agree :) I agree. It's no big deal waiting an hour for a complete

Re: [fpc-devel] embedded again

2013-01-15 Thread waldo kitty
On 1/15/2013 06:01, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Sven Barth wrote: Am 15.01.2013 11:52, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt: That is a weird assumption. I would go for the second one, hands down... I wouldn't if the second one is significantly slower than the first one. Otherwise