Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-26 Thread Sven Barth
Am 25.10.2010 19:12, schrieb luciano de souza: 7. IUP - It fulfills all the requirements. Previous experiences using Lua and IUP, graphical tool kit developed by brazilian reseachers, shows excelent results. Graphical interfaces can be created by blind programmers, without any coordenate, using

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-26 Thread luciano de souza
IUP 2.x are not compatible with screen readers. The reason is the excessive usage of Canvas Draw. I did a large number of tests with IUP and Lua and I can assure IUP 3.1 and 3.2, the last version, are very good so in Linux as in Windows. For this reason, I would like to translate IUP 3.2. Yes, we

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-26 Thread Sven Barth
Am 26.10.2010 16:18, schrieb luciano de souza: IUP 2.x are not compatible with screen readers. The reason is the excessive usage of Canvas Draw. I did a large number of tests with IUP and Lua and I can assure IUP 3.1 and 3.2, the last version, are very good so in Linux as in Windows. For this

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-26 Thread luciano de souza
2010/10/26, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com: Am 26.10.2010 16:18, schrieb luciano de souza: IUP 2.x are not compatible with screen readers. The reason is the excessive usage of Canvas Draw. I did a large number of tests with IUP and Lua and I can assure IUP 3.1 and 3.2, the last

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-26 Thread luciano de souza
I understand. After running H2pas, I had erros in all rows with array of const. The arguments are not constants indeed. They are ihandle or pihandle as the first one is. So but when I use varargs probabibly all the arguments have the same type: pihandle. I believe the second alternative will

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-26 Thread Sven Barth
Am 26.10.2010 17:00, schrieb luciano de souza: I understand. After running H2pas, I had erros in all rows with array of const. The arguments are not constants indeed. They are ihandle or pihandle as the first one is. So but when I use varargs probabibly all the arguments have the same type:

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread JosĪ¹ Mejuto
Hello FPC, Monday, October 25, 2010, 7:12:25 PM, you wrote: lds 1. tform - it fulfills the items 1 and 3. A blind person cannot lds program it. At first, because Lazarus environment is not accessible lds and a blind people prefer to use only hard code without move objects lds on a form.

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread luciano de souza
It's really interesting. After looking for so libraries, it would be fantastic to find a solution with tform. But, regarding everything needs to be created only writing codes, without opening the inaccessible interface of Lazarus, do you believe can it be done? I give you an example using Lua.

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread Marcos Douglas
2010/10/25 luciano de souza luchya...@gmail.com: [snip] My question is: is it possible to create all the interface with tform without using the Lazarus interfaces, in other words, only typing codes in a text editor? Yes, but you will write more in Pascal than with IUP. Marcos Douglas

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/10/25 luciano de souza luchya...@gmail.com My question is: is it possible to create all the interface with tform without using the Lazarus interfaces, in other words, only typing codes in a text editor? Yes, everything you can do in the form designer can be done in code too. Take a

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread luciano de souza
Marcos, it's not exactly a problem. My example in Lua is supplied only to show the hard code styly needed to my targets. Even if more code is required, it's always possible to enclose the complexity in classes. I really like Pascal and I expect to find a solution using only Pascal. I don't know

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread Vincent Snijders
2010/10/25 luciano de souza luchya...@gmail.com Vincent, You got the point. When I came across LFMs, I thought a hard code focus could not be used. But, I can imagine another problem. Lazarus interface is unbelievably worse. So I would like to compile my projects only doing: fpc project.pp.

Re: [fpc-devel] Chosing a graphical interface for specific proposals

2010-10-25 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
2010/10/25 luciano de souza: Finally, I ask: does someone have an idea what can I do? Does someone know other interfaces container based compatible with Pascal? I much prefer code based designing compared to Visual Form Designing. In a similar way you can compare OpenOffice or MS-Office to