Zitat von Michael Schnell :
On 03/01/2010 10:36 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
You need lazarus 0.9.29.
I might try to get this running some day soon
Try that on "PostMessage".
I get a method in unit InterfaceBase and a procedure in unit LCLIntf.
Obviously you want the last.
I've
Zitat von Juha Manninen :
Hi,
What gave no feedback?
Ok, I tested again with a non-typical situation.
I worked with lazarus.lpi and built Lazarus from tools -> Configure Build
Lazarus. The error messages show up just like when compiling a "normal"
project but "search identifier" does nothing
On 03/01/2010 10:43 AM, Juha Manninen wrote:
>
> You must first select the error saying "identifier not found" and then right
> click on it.
>
I only can select a complete line in the message window.
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On 03/01/2010 10:36 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
>
> You need lazarus 0.9.29.
>
I might try to get this running some day soon
Try that on "PostMessage".
I've not yet been able top find the Linux definition of same.
Keeping on trying
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Hi,
> What gave no feedback?
Ok, I tested again with a non-typical situation.
I worked with lazarus.lpi and built Lazarus from tools -> Configure Build
Lazarus. The error messages show up just like when compiling a "normal"
project but "search identifier" does nothing.
Now I tested with a "nor
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:43:23 +0200
Juha Manninen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > All these are very interesting options I was not aware of, but
> > unfortunately no search for identifiers.
>
> You must first select the error saying "identifier not found" and then right
> click on it.
>
> I tested it with s
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:14:50 +0100
Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 02/26/2010 04:10 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> > '
> > There are several tools in Lazarus for this:
> > - click compile, fpc will give "identifier not found", right click on
> > the message - popup menu - search identifier. This wil
Hi,
> All these are very interesting options I was not aware of, but
> unfortunately no search for identifiers.
You must first select the error saying "identifier not found" and then right
click on it.
I tested it with some broken code and it gave no feedback at all. I think it
should always g
On 02/26/2010 10:21 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
>
> PostMessage is threadsafe, dispatch is not.
>
Not only thread-save, but thread traversing, which is the proper
function of the message delivering library service.
Seemingly the function names are wisely chose (regarding the work of a
parcel se
On 02/26/2010 04:10 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> '
> There are several tools in Lazarus for this:
> - click compile, fpc will give "identifier not found", right click on
> the message - popup menu - search identifier. This will search all
> units. On first time it may take a minute to scan
>
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:46:09 +0100
Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 02/26/2010 10:19 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> >
> > SendMessage is defined in unit LCLIntf and implemented in the
> > LCL interfaces.
> >
>
> Great ! This is the info I needed.
>
> with "uses LCLIntf" it gets compiled.
There ar
On 02/26/2010 10:19 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
>
> SendMessage is defined in unit LCLIntf and implemented in the
> LCL interfaces.
>
Great ! This is the info I needed.
with "uses LCLIntf" it gets compiled.
Thanks,
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On 02/26/2010 10:21 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> PostMessage is threadsafe, dispatch is not.
>
This is what I did suppose.
Now I need to find out how to call PostMessage (as "uses Classes" does
not make it visible).
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On 02/26/2010 10:03 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Michael Schnell wrote:
>
>> 1) "procedure...message" does wok in Linux
>> 2) it can be triggered by "Dispatch".
>>
>
> And this is what I have been telling you since the start! :-)
>
I did not see the relevance, as I did not suppose tha
26.02.2010 16:19, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
SendMessage is defined in unit LCLIntf and implemented in the
LCL interfaces. In the end it calls Dispatch. AFAIK under gtk it does
not support sending messages to/from other apps.
As far as I remember both are using same messaging subsystem of gtk. At
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:53:44 +0100
Michael Schnell wrote:
> OK, Thisa does take me one step further.
>
> 1) "procedure...message" does wok in Linux
> 2) it can be triggered by "Dispatch".
>
> This is good news, as FPC/Lazarus is confirmed to work as expected. :)
> This is bad news as now I need
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:41:15 +0100
Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 02/25/2010 07:47 PM, David W Noon wrote:
> >
> > for a couple of years. Provided you are using Lazarus classes, it
> > works just like Windows: the PostMessage() and SendMessage() functions
> > in the LCLIntf unit provide closely ana
Michael Schnell wrote:
>
> 1) "procedure...message" does wok in Linux
> 2) it can be triggered by "Dispatch".
And this is what I have been telling you since the start! :-)
Regards,
- Graeme -
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http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgu
OK, Thisa does take me one step further.
1) "procedure...message" does wok in Linux
2) it can be triggered by "Dispatch".
This is good news, as FPC/Lazarus is confirmed to work as expected. :)
This is bad news as now I need to consider "procedure...message" when
doing the NoGUIApplication package
On 02/25/2010 07:47 PM, David W Noon wrote:
>
> for a couple of years. Provided you are using Lazarus classes, it
> works just like Windows: the PostMessage() and SendMessage() functions
> in the LCLIntf unit provide closely analogous functionality to their
> Win32 API namesakes. [In all the appl
On 02/25/2010 06:59 PM, Mattias Gärtner wrote:
>
> Maybe if you provide a more complete example, some Linux users can
> help you.
Sorry, but an example how "procedure ... message" can be used in Linux
is what I am requesting.
A working example in Windows is trivial. Here it works exactly as in
Del
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:59:05 +0100, Michael Schnell wrote about Re:
[fpc-devel] procedure ... message(); in Linux:
> Can't anyone answer the question if in Linux the legal and compilable
> construct
>
> procedure... message;
>
> either
>
> is not supposed to be w
25.02.2010 19:59, Michael Schnell:
Can't anyone answer the question if in Linux the legal and compilable
construct
procedure... message;
either
is not supposed to be working
Is is working fine on linux, see my example below.
or
how I can have such a procedure be executed (e.g. by posting a
Zitat von Michael Schnell :
Can't anyone answer the question if in Linux the legal and compilable
construct
procedure... message;
either
is not supposed to be working
or
how I can have such a procedure be executed (e.g. by posting a message
from a thread or another application, what I succe
P.S.:
I found out that homeip,net is banned here in the company's network, as
in the past, there have been some frauds using this.
-Michael
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> So about a week ago I setup a .htaccess in the
> opensoft.homeip.net root website to block some of those domains.
>
> Is your domain listed in any of these?
>
> ---
> # Deny hosts or spam domains
> RewriteCond %{REMOTE_HOST} sputnikmedia.net [NC,OR]
> RewriteCond %{REMOTE_HO
Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 02/18/2010 05:35 PM, Michael Schnell wrote:
>> I'll try at home
>>
> It works at home, No idea why it is blocked here. Is this a kind of
> spam-prone server ?
In this last month I was bombarded with web crawlers even though I have a
robots.txt file setup. So ab
On 02/18/2010 10:26 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
> Just thought of something else. Not sure if this is a solution,
>
Thanks a lot for your support, but in fact I am not seeking for a
solution, but the question is if the compilable FPC construct "procedure
... message" works at all in (Lazarus
I suppose it's a glitch of our office's ID.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Thanks,
-Michael
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On 02/18/2010 05:35 PM, Michael Schnell wrote:
> I'll try at home
>
It works at home, No idea why it is blocked here. Is this a kind of
spam-prone server ?
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On 02/18/2010 10:16 PM, Nikolai Zhubr wrote:
> ... if you are going to make this messaging work to some degree in
> non-main thread on windows, you'll probably need to take care of some
> things manually.
Of course you are right that the Delphi / Windows paradigm only allows
for a single message
On 17 February 2010 16:47, Michael Schnell wrote:
> What messages does it capture ?
> How to send a message from a thread ?
Just thought of something else. Not sure if this is a solution, but it
might head you in the right direction. Have a look at two behavioural
design patterns: Chain of Respo
18.02.2010 16:16, Michael Schnell:
[trim]
use "procedure message". But In Delphi/Windows you don't need to
create a server. Just using "procedure message" is enough o receive
a message from another process.
No. AFAIK even in Delphi, "message procedures" for non-components are
pretty mu
On 18 February 2010 17:44, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
> Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
It works fine here (from the office and home). I can also assure you
the project is not abandoned. :) I use it daily in our company and am
currently busy putting together the ne
Sorry, I posted the reply to the Lazarus list by accident.
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From: Graeme Geldenhuys
Date: 18 February 2010 19:16
Subject: Re: [fpc-devel] procedure ... message(); in Linux
To: Lazarus mailing list
On 18 February 2010 15:16, Michael Schnell wrote
On 18 February 2010 15:41, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
> my fpc sources don't have any fpg* files other than fpglibc* and fpgtk*.
>
> Lazarus does have a directory /lazarus/lcl/interfaces/fpgui/ but it does
> not contain a file fpg_main.* and fpgPostMessage is not mentioned in any
> file :(.
Sorry
On 02/18/2010 04:50 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote:
>
> On 18 Feb 2010, at 16:44, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
>> Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
>>
>> http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
>>
>> ERROR
>>
>>The requested URL could not be retrieved
>
> It works fine here.
>
I'l
On 02/18/2010 05:12 PM, Marc Weustink wrote:
>
> Nope. On non windows widgetrsets, lazarus implements its own
> messagequeue which is handled in application.Idle.
I'll try to find out how this works(and how things like Timer and
the waiting for events are done). Maybe it's an alternative to us
Michael Schnell wrote:
On 02/18/2010 02:48 PM, Sergei Gorelkin wrote:If this is possible with
FPC/Linux, I
should make sure that it's still possible with the NoGUIApplication
package.
Windows has a built-in transport for the messages, Linux doesn't. Of
course there
are libraries providing simi
On 18 Feb 2010, at 16:44, Michael Schnell wrote:
Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
It works fine here.
Jonas
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On 02/18/2010 02:49 PM, Jonas Maebe wrote:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=fpgui
>
Of course I did try this, but the project seems to be abandoned:
http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
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On 02/18/2010 02:48 PM, Sergei Gorelkin wrote:If this is possible with
FPC/Linux, I
>> should make sure that it's still possible with the NoGUIApplication
>> package.
>>
> Windows has a built-in transport for the messages, Linux doesn't. Of
> course there
> are libraries providing similar or even b
On 18 Feb 2010, at 14:41, Michael Schnell wrote:
Lazarus does have a directory /lazarus/lcl/interfaces/fpgui/ but it
does
not contain a file fpg_main.* and fpgPostMessage is not mentioned in
any
file :(.
http://www.google.com/search?q=fpgui
Jonas
Michael Schnell wrote:
Yep. Here you need to do a server and a client and it does not seem to
use "procedure message". But In Delphi/Windows you don't need to
create a server. Just using "procedure message" is enough o receive
a message from another process.
Things are more complicat
On 02/18/2010 09:21 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
> fpGUI has an internal event queue which later gets dispatched to the target
> using TObject.Dispatch(). fpGUI v0.4 and earlier used a Object based even
> system and had it's own distribution functions. Later version of fpGUI uses
> Record based m
On 02/18/2010 09:21 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
>> How to send a message from another process ?
>>
>
> On example would be to use IPC as defined in the SimpleIPC unit - part of
> FCL. SimpleIPC documentation can be found at:
>
> http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/fcl/simpleipc/index.html
Thanks for your valuable hints !
On 02/18/2010 09:21 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> You can obviously use other custom communications methods too.
>
Of course I do know this, my current goal is to explore if/how I need to
support "procedure...message" with the upcoming NoGUIApplication package.
On 02/17/2010 05:46 PM, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> Afaik it is nothing more than a table that says "for msg with value xxx call
> method yyy". IOW it is abstract.
>
In Windows obviously an "msg" is a Windows message. But what is a "msg"
in Linux ?
-Michael
I hope I understand your question correctly...
Michael Schnell wrote:
> What messages does it capture ?
Anything that fits into 'var message' parameter. fpGUI uses the following
base structure for the event queue.
TfpgMessageRec = record
MsgCode: integer;
Sender: TObject;
Dest: TO
In our previous episode, Michael Schnell said:
> How to send a message from a thread ?
>
> How to send a message from another process ?
>
> I do know that there are other (supposedly more decent) ways to do
> inter-thread and inter-process communication, But as
> procedure...message(), does compi
What messages does it capture ?
How to send a message from a thread ?
How to send a message from another process ?
I do know that there are other (supposedly more decent) ways to do
inter-thread and inter-process communication, But as
procedure...message(), does compile in a Linux executable, I'
Somewhere user code must call
MyObject.Dispatch(MyMessage);
This looks as if this might be good news. The dispatch mechanism seems
to be completely platform independent and so it seems I just need to
fire the normal (obviously hierarchical) dispatch mechanism when a
message arrives.
Tha
Thanks. I did try to find it but am lost up till now. regarding
Thorsten's message I assume it is a member function to some class
(e.g. TObject), but my usual means to find such functions don't show
it to me.
Sorry.
Found it !
Thanks again.
-Michael
Also I failed to find the implementation of TObject.Dispatch. Have you
any hint where to search ?
Sorry.
Found it !
Thanks again.
-Michael
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"creates an entry" most probably.
Right. Thanks.
-Michael (not a native speaker :-( )
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Thorsten Engler wrote:
Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what
"creates a try" means but maybe I'll find out.
Should have been "an entry"
Sorry for not guessing this :-\ .
Now I need to find out what exactly it puts into the RTTI and how to
extract it from there.
Also
Michael Schnell wrote:
What happens is that the compiler creates
an try in the message table of the RTTI for the class. Check out the
implementation of Tobject.Dispatch to see how that is used.
Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what "creates a
try" means but maybe I'll fi
See implementation of dispatch. It gets the message number and looks
for the corresponding method in a table. The compiler generates this
table at compile time.
Thanks. I did try to find it but am lost up till now. regarding
Thorsten's message I assume it is a member function to some class (
> Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what
> "creates a try" means but maybe I'll find out.
Should have been "an entry".
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Michael Schnell schreef:
I see you are still a bit lost. Maybe the documentation can help:
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu24.html
I in fact am lost (as I still don't dare to try to look into the
compiler's source code).
Unfortunately the docs text does not say what code the com
What happens is that the compiler creates
an try in the message table of the RTTI for the class. Check out the
implementation of Tobject.Dispatch to see how that is used.
Thanks. That seems to give me a clue. I have no idea what "creates a
try" means but maybe I'll find out.
Thanks again,
I see you are still a bit lost. Maybe the documentation can help:
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refsu24.html
I in fact am lost (as I still don't dare to try to look into the
compiler's source code).
Unfortunately the docs text does not say what code the compiler
generates to make t
That is the result of what is happening. Most of it is done by the
library (the compiler can't do this by itself), and I am trying to use some
home-brew library functions here.
What I wanted to know is how the compiler does this (or how I can
find out what exactly it
Michael Schnell schreef:
peter green wrote:
What does the compiler do when translating "procedure ... message" ?
I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
TApplication class that can do things like "TTimer"
"TThread.Synchronize", Message events, etc, using Windows mes
peter green wrote:
What does the compiler do when translating "procedure ... message" ?
I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
TApplication class that can do things like "TTimer"
"TThread.Synchronize", Message events, etc, using Windows messages in
Windows (for tes
> What does the compiler do when translating "procedure ... message" ?
>
> I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
> TApplication class that can do things like "TTimer"
> "TThread.Synchronize", Message events, etc, using Windows messages in
> Windows (for testing pur
What does the compiler do when translating "procedure ... message" ?
I need to know this as I want to create a non-GUI workalike of the
TApplication class that can do things like "TTimer"
"TThread.Synchronize", Message events, etc, using Windows messages in
Windows (for testing purpose) and sy
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