Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-21 Thread Michael Schnell
2) Configuration files (note that these may be fairly complex with IFDEFs and include files. So in Lazarus such an option could be just selecting a configuration file. Seems rather easy. -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-21 Thread Michael Schnell
2) asymmetrical (-Xs -g turns off stripping, but -g -Xs does not turn off debug information ... Do / should the order the options are given in matter ? IMHO this can be the source of major confusion. The Lazarus GUI uses check boxes to select compiler options. This no order is

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-21 Thread Peter Vreman
2) asymmetrical (-Xs -g turns off stripping, but -g -Xs does not turn off debug information ... Do / should the order the options are given in matter ? IMHO this can be the source of major confusion. The Lazarus GUI uses check boxes to select compiler options. This no order is selectable

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-19 Thread Tomas Hajny
On 18 Jan 08, at 22:29, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Flávio Etrusco wrote: That is partly true. The problem is that setting -Xs doesn't help if there is also -g in the command line. So people think that the compiler strips the executable, but in fact the

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-19 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 19 Jan 2008, at 12:43, Tomas Hajny wrote: On 18 Jan 08, at 22:29, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Flávio Etrusco wrote: But why doesn't FPC spit a warning when these (seemingly conflicting) options are used? It silently switches off -Xs when debug info is selected.

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-19 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 19 Jan 2008, at 13:22, Jonas Maebe wrote: 2) asymmetrical (-Xs -g, b: requires extra explanations and can be unintuitive because the switches are sometimes orthogonal and sometimes not Something got left out here, that should have read: 2) asymmetrical (-Xs -g turns off stripping, but

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria
Hi, 2008/1/18, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think is really most important can use it ASAP. Right ! See the latest posts in the Borland Kylix Newsgroup (that indeed still exists :) ). What do you mean? :| -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria.

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Schnell
I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria
Hi, 2008/1/18, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. -Michael I have found the original thread. See it here:

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Jan 18, 2008 9:39 AM, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. So, he couldn't read the FAQ:

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria
Hi, 2008/1/18, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 18, 2008 9:39 AM, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland.

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Fri, 18 Jan 2008, schreef Michael Schnell: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. Anyone who writes such texts doesn't look further than his nose. Experience shows

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Peter Vreman
I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. Anyone who writes such texts doesn't look further than his nose. Experience shows they will just hit the next thing which makes

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Marc Weustink wrote: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Peter Vreman wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Peter Vreman wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. Anyone who writes such texts doesn't look further than his nose. Experience

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Schnell
So, he couldn't read the FAQ: Of course not. Nearly nobody reads an FAQ before deciding if a program is usable for him or not. They are only read when working with the program and encountering problems. -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist -

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Marc Weustink
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Peter Vreman wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. Anyone who writes such texts doesn't look further than his nose.

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Jan 18, 2008 7:47 AM, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. Anyone who writes such texts doesn't look further than his

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Marc Weustink
Daniël Mantione wrote: Op Fri, 18 Jan 2008, schreef Marc Weustink: Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Peter Vreman wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Flávio Etrusco wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 7:47 AM, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggested using Lazarus and the OP said he had great doubts because the size of the exe of his test program is 10 times the size of that compiled by Borland. Anyone

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Flávio Etrusco
That is partly true. The problem is that setting -Xs doesn't help if there is also -g in the command line. So people think that the compiler strips the executable, but in fact the binary is unstripped. But why doesn't FPC spit a warning when these (seemingly conflicting)

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-18 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Fri, 18 Jan 2008, schreef Marc Weustink: The FPC IDE has had it for years. All user interface support you need is the Options-Mode menu. For the rest the handling all internal; the IDE uses an array of options, one for each build mode, each with its own defaults. Yeah... and we want

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/17, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi to all, I have some questions about the last 9778 revision (related to the new -Xg option). The help tell: -Xg now produces a .dbg file with debuginfo that can be used by gdb.

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/17, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/17, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi to all, I have some questions about the last 9778 revision (related

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria
Hi, 2008/1/17, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/17, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi to all, I have some questions about the last 9778 revision (related to the new -Xg option). The help tell: -Xg now

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria
Hi, 2008/1/17, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/17, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/17, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi to all,

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Fabio Dell'Aria
Hi, 2008/1/17, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi to all, I have some questions about the last 9778 revision (related to the new -Xg option). The help tell: -Xg now produces a .dbg file with debuginfo that can be used by gdb. My questions are: 1)...when this patch will be

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Because 2.2.2 is a bugfix only release, no new features are allowed. Michael. I understand and agree with this position, add a new features in a bugfix only release is dangerous! Any opinion about the 2.4 release date? No. Because of

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Paul Ishenin
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: My questions are: 1)...when this patch will be apply to the current 2.2.x version (I think currently it works only on the last 2.3.x version)? The patch is not even 24 hours old and needs to stabilize first. Maybe in a couple of months it will be considered for

Re: [fpc-devel] New -Xg option in the last 9778 revision

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Schnell
I think is really most important can use it ASAP. Right ! See the latest posts in the Borland Kylix Newsgroup (that indeed still exists :) ). -Michael ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org